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    Quote Originally Posted by Betson View Post
    Change of administration often means change of personal. Nothing wrong with that.

    Democrats seem to have hard time getting around the fact that this administration want to put their own people in just like every other administration did. If these ambassadors etc are not alright or inline with current policy then it is better they go.
    Change of administration often means change of personnel. This is true. Political appointees get switched out and replaced. That hasn't even been the case here. At this point 97 out of 153 positions held by political appointees have still not seen anyone confirmed. Most of those vacantpositions haven't even seen anyone nominated to them. Not even in fields where the Trump administration is supposedly placing importance has this happened. As the Trump administration frets over North Korea's advances in missile technology, it still doesn't have an ambassador in South Korea. It still doesn't have an assistant secretary for East Asia and the Pacific.

    Career US ambassadors aren't political appointees though. They're career members of the US diplomatic corps. So too are other State Department employees. There's a massive exodus of these experienced career officials going on. This is not even remotely normal or in line with what's happened under previous administrations at any time. Tillerson has personally made it harder to replace them too. Years and years of experience in diplomatic affairs, institutional knowledge, are vanishing and not even being close to replaced because of Trump's mishandling of the State Department. American diplomacy will be weakened for years and years after Trump's presidency has come to an end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    If they were putting their own people in, you'd have a point.

    But how you can ignore the problem with there being no official US ambassador in South Korea at the moment - to take just one example - is evidence of your own inability to acknowledge reality. Especially as the person serving as interim Chargé d'Affaires in the meantime is the former deputy Chief of Mission, who was of course named to that position under the Dems. The worst of both worlds for a Republican administration surely?
    And his point would only be valid insofar as it extended to political appointees. Its validity does not extend to career officials such as career ambassadors. These serve their country irrespective of administration. What Betson is portraying as normal would cause huge panics were it to happen to the Pentagon.
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    "I would to stem the bleeding by showing leadership and a commitment to our people, our mission, and our mandate as the foreign policy arm of the United States.

    If you are unable to do so effectively within this Administration, I would humbly recommend you follow me out the door.”


    FP has published the resignation letter of a promising career diplomat. Apparently it reflects widely held beliefs about the State Department under the Trump administration. Well worth a read. As per everything about this administration's approach to the State Department, it is damning.

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    I don't see much sign of disarray now. Trump is flying along. All the court blockings have ended as the time for appeals arrives
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    So, with the ouster of Tillerson (a good thing) and his possible replacement by Pompeo (to be determined whether that shall be a good thing or not) it may be a nice moment to see how the State Department is doing. It would seem that vacancies are less atrocious now (but still atrocious) with quite a few more people having been nominated/confirmed.

    How's the top echelon doing? Well, until such time as Pompeo is confirmed eight of the nine top jobs in the State Department will be vacant. There is no Secretary of State, the Under Secretary for Political Affairs is retiring, the Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs just got fired too. There's no Deputy Secretary for Management/Resources, no Under Secretary for Management, no Under Secretary for Arms Control & International Security, no Under Secretary for Civilian Security, Democracy & Human Rights, no Under Secretary for Economic Growth, Energy & Development and no Counselor.

    Good times.
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    Further proof that the orange moron cant lead or govern
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    It was mentioned on CNN that many in the State Dept will be pleased at the firing, as many complaints about positions that werent being filled. Pompeo has a reputation in the CIA for filling positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    It was mentioned on CNN that many in the State Dept will be pleased at the firing, as many complaints about positions that werent being filled. Pompeo has a reputation in the CIA for filling positions.
    Many will undoubtedly be pleased. Tillerson was a horrible Secretary of State and part of an administration that has utterly mismanaged the State Department. The buck as to the responsibility for the mismanagement does not stop with Tillerson, it stops with Trump, Dame.

    There is hope that Pompeo's better relationship with Trump will be a boon to the State Department, but there is also quite a bit of concern regarding Pompeo as I understand it (inexperience pretty much being mentioned, for example, as well as his reputation as a huge hawk).
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    “I have in my entire federal career never experienced anything at this level of chaos and dysfunction.”

    The situation is hardly improving under Pompeo and worryingly a loyalty list is being compiled..

    Trump Appointee Compiles Loyalty List of U.S. Employees at U.N., State – Foreign Policy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    “I have in my entire federal career never experienced anything at this level of chaos and dysfunction.”

    The situation is hardly improving under Pompeo and worryingly a loyalty list is being compiled..

    Trump Appointee Compiles Loyalty List of U.S. Employees at U.N., State – Foreign Policy
    Ah, Caligula Mark II is with us.
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