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    Quote Originally Posted by GabhaDubh View Post
    I have a problem when one off the District Court Justices, 1 of 680 can effect National Security, tying up the Ciruit Court before SCOTUS.
    Especially when you get grandstanding from some of these judges who obviously have political ambitions as well.
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    It was always likely to end this way. The SCOTUS typically defers to the President (of either party)on immigration and/or national security matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere View Post
    Sometimes, but the issue here has yet again been Donald's big gob. If he'd have just STFU about banning Muslims and the like and simply kept the issues to national security, these things would have flown through as they have before.
    The ultimate irony is that this is window dressing anyway. If the Orange Moron was really concerned about protecting the USA why didn't he include any of the states from which the 9/11 attackers originated? Of course not, because he is scared of upsetting his best mates, the stone-age savages running Saudi Arabia, who accounted for 15 of the bastards.
    Next up, he will build a wall for all of about 200 yards on the border with Mexico and claim a victory, and the dumbest of the dumb will celebrate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raetsel View Post
    The ultimate irony is that this is window dressing anyway. If the Orange Moron was really concerned about protecting the USA why didn't he include any of the states from which the 9/11 attackers originated? Of course not, because he is scared of upsetting his best mates, the stone-age savages running Saudi Arabia, who accounted for 15 of the bastards.
    Next up, he will build a wall for all of about 200 yards on the border with Mexico and claim a victory, and the dumbest of the dumb will celebrate it.

    Due to his demagogic multiple admissions of actual motives, of course it's window dressing and the pretext has more holes than the Titanic as you noted.

    With his first few attempts, it was clear that he simply wanted to block Muslim refugees/asylum claimants altogether from nations that produce plenty of them. They're the wrong colour, religion and cultures for his preferences. He's beefed up the national security pretext by adding Venezuela and NorK--non-white non-Muslim nations--to muddy up his Muslim remarks but it's an expanded pretext as a twofer to keep more of the browner sorts out.


    Of course, if you're a German blonde haired blue eyed Evangelical family that wants to home school their kids, then that's a cause célèbre for the GOP and its right wing Religious Right base that qualifies as a true oppression compared to...you know, say drowning on the water whilst fleeing ISIS and such.
    Home Schooling German Family Allowed to Stay in US - ABC News
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    Quote Originally Posted by raetsel View Post
    The ultimate irony is that this is window dressing anyway. If the Orange Moron was really concerned about protecting the USA why didn't he include any of the states from which the 9/11 attackers originated? Of course not, because he is scared of upsetting his best mates, the stone-age savages running Saudi Arabia, who accounted for 15 of the bastards.
    Next up, he will build a wall for all of about 200 yards on the border with Mexico and claim a victory, and the dumbest of the dumb will celebrate it.

    Because they are no longer a threat, times change, good governments change with the times
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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere View Post
    Due to his demagogic multiple admissions of actual motives, of course it's window dressing and the pretext has more holes than the Titanic as you noted.

    With his first few attempts, it was clear that he simply wanted to block Muslim refugees/asylum claimants altogether from nations that produce plenty of them. They're the wrong colour, religion and cultures for his preferences. He's beefed up the national security pretext by adding Venezuela and NorK--non-white non-Muslim nations--to muddy up his Muslim remarks but it's an expanded pretext as a twofer to keep more of the browner sorts out.


    Of course, if you're a German blonde haired blue eyed Evangelical family that wants to home school their kids, then that's a cause célèbre for the GOP and its right wing Religious Right base that qualifies as a true oppression compared to...you know, say drowning on the water whilst fleeing ISIS and such.
    Home Schooling German Family Allowed to Stay in US - ABC News
    The law is the law
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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    Because they are no longer a threat, times change, good governments change with the times
    Good is not a prefix I've ever heard used before in connection with any Saudi Arabian government. The House of Saud are fukking savages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raetsel View Post
    Good is not a prefix I've ever heard used before in connection with any Saudi Arabian government. The House of Saud are fukking savages.
    Big things, hopefully good things, are reported to have happened recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagmore View Post
    Big things, hopefully good things, are reported to have happened recently.

    That could have come straight from the mouth of the Orange Moron.
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    The Daily Beast: Appeals Court: President Trump’s Travel Ban 3.0 Violates Federal Law. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwjruInTc

    However they stay their own ruling pending a SC decision. The SC recently removed an earlier injunction on it.
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