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    SeanieFitz SeanieFitz is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betson View Post
    Yes by all means investigate , but the sum of the proof so far amounts to a few fake facebook pages. The most successful of which was a fake Black lives matter account that was very critical of Trump.

    But the worry with all this collusion nonsense is as Alan Dershowitz(big Hilary supporter ,and anti Trumper) has pointed out that it smacks as if they are looking for a crime they can pin on the man rather than investigating an actual crime.

    Even this latest nonsense with Trump Jnr talking to wikileaks , so what. On CNN last night all their legal analysts(they had 3 of them on) admitted that Jrn has done nothing illegal in communicating with wikileaks.

    But Don Lemmon was trying to push then on their been anyway at all the Muller investigation could use any law at all on the books to claim the contact was somehow illegal , and they were going through different wild scenarios where there was a long shot chance of claiming the contact as illigalthrough various arcane election laws. As Derhowitz said the process seems very un Amercian trying to manufacturer charges out of every benign situation just because we do not like the people involved.
    All I am interested in is that the truth will come out, Putin cannot and should not be trusted

    Also, if the situation was reversed and HRC had won with the same suspected Russian taint you can be sure and certain that the Republicans, Fox News, Hannity, Bannon etc etc would be making the exact same demands for investigation that is being made by Democrats and liberal media
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    Quote Originally Posted by livingstone View Post
    How can you be so sure in such a tight election? All that would be needed for Russian interference to have swung the election is for it to have moved one voter in every 1700 or so that's a little more than 0.05% of those who voted.

    It is undeniable - and you don't seem to be denying - that there were Russian efforts to interfere in and swing the election. It is entirely impossible to say with certainty that that interference didn't shift 80,000 votes out of nearly 140 million.
    You can claim that anything shifted the needle in any close election , the fact is that Clinton and the DNC did a lot more to harm her own chances than the Russians did.

    I would reckon very few people shifted their vote because of a fake facebook page. Much more likely that a lot more votes were swung by one candidate calling over 40 million Americans a basket of deplorables , and also how many Bernie supporters stayed away or did not vote Clinton because of the DNC(Clinton controlled DNC) shenanigans. Clinton's real weakness is that she could not a lot get these people out to vote for her.

    How many votes were swung in places like Wisconsin where Clinton did not even bother to campaign in or other places she barely set foot in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betson View Post
    Even this latest nonsense with Trump Jnr talking to wikileaks , so what. On CNN last night all their legal analysts(they had 3 of them on) admitted that Jrn has done nothing illegal in communicating with wikileaks.
    The mere communication itself isn't necessarily illegal, but what might place Junior in legal jeopardy is the fact that he received a password. That's where he enters into legal jeopardy based on what he did with that information afterwards.

    Additionally, he could also reasonably assume that the information he received was acquired through illicit means ("guessing" the password, really?) and thus questions can be raised as to why he did not alert authorities.
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    I wonder when they will get Kellyanne Conway in to testify. Seems like they are saving her up for a special day of her own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    I wonder when they will get Kellyanne Conway in to testify. Seems like they are saving her up for a special day of her own.
    I'm guessing they are waiting for the bullshėt inoculation injections to take full effect before they call her in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    I wonder when they will get Kellyanne Conway in to testify. Seems like they are saving her up for a special day of her own.
    Kellyanne will be allowed to plead insanity. And proper order too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betson View Post
    Russian and other nations security forces have always tried to influence elections , just as the CIA has in Russia and other countries , it is what they do.

    But the notion that is been spun that they swung the election is just absurd and sour grapes stuff from the losers.
    There is nothing "absurd" about a conclusion that the sheer scale and sophistication of the bombardment US voters in targeted States received online, probably swung a few hundred thousand votes.
    Nothing absurd about that at all.

    The young bar woman in my local proclaimed the Clintons " a pair of sick perverts" a week before the election, gleaned from crap she saw online, and she has a friggin degree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    I wonder when they will get Kellyanne Conway in to testify. Seems like they are saving her up for a special day of her own.
    If they do call her in, she'll have to set aside her lying act or else she'll be charged with perjury or whatever. And for wasting everyone's time since mid-2016 (that should be a crime).
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    Anyone who wants to watch the hearing live can go here:

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?437024...rsight-hearing
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    Very interesting. Sessions was asked by Rep Ron DeSantis (R-FL) was taxpayers money paid to Christopher Steele. Sessions said he can't comment as it may be classified.
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