Clinton, Obama, JFK, and the next terrorist attack

[Destiny's Soldier]

Destiny, could you please edit the third link you gave buy using Link
I'd like to read your post, but it destroys the whole page when you have to keep scrolling left and right - its easily fixed. Thanks.

It's the one thing I can't get right. I made attempts and failed so I deleted it.

Ye get the message anyway.

[A_man_about_a_dog]

I have to say, the transcipt of the discussion between Allan Nairn, Amy Goodman and Kelley Beaucar Vlahos is extremely interesting. The foreign policy advisors to many of the candidates, both democrat and republican, are from similar backgrounsds and many of them have 'earned' their stripes in places like Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, Vietnam, Cambodia and Indonesia. The commentators make the point that many of the people currently advising the candidates are themselves eligable for prosecution under the principles set out in the Nurembourg, the Rwandan as well as the Bosnian inquiries.

Makes for interesting reading (or listening, if you have your earphones)

[youngdan]

Anyone that reads this can get the message quite easily. Clinton refused to attack Iraq after the excuse was given to him with the staged Oklahoma bombing. I am glad Arminius mentioned the 2 shot to the brain suicide of Webb. I would add the cover up of the shooting down of TWA800, Clinton likewise felt that it was more important for him to win an easy election against a geriatric war hero than rock the boat. Imagine that, a Clinton running against a geriatric war hero, even the fools pretending to know something about American politics by posting the latest poll might be able to see a pattern here. Ifollowed Obama's election closely not because I knew anything about him because nobody did but I knew plenty about Alan Keyes. His coming from outside to run in this election where anyone could see that he would get no votes was enough to attract attention. People prefer to believe what they are told and never wonder why Kissinger and Brezinsky are still in the mix even though they have held no official positions since the ice age.

[Sonic_exyouth]

Zbigniew Brzezinski was behind the camp david accords, and supports ending the freeze on gaza and engaging with hamas.. no?

[Dasayev]

Is this how a conspiracy theorist tries to damage Obama?

Also discouraging for the idealistic observer was Obama’s attempt to unseat Congressman Bobby Rush, a former Black Panther and the one of the most consistently honest and progressive voices in the congress. Obama lost that race.

Chicago Reader (2000)

But while Rush praises the power of education for grade-school students, he shows a suspicion of folks who get too high, especially if they're trying to take his congressional seat. "He went to Harvard and became an educated fool," he says scornfully of Obama, and declares, "We're not impressed with these folks with these eastern elite degrees."

Obama's overeducation left him with an "ivory tower" outlook, Rush charges.

John McNamara, the Worth Township Democratic committeeman, says Rush only looks out for the district's black neighborhoods.

President Clinton has also endorsed Rush. But then, there's speculation in the district that Stroger's support means even Mayor Daley secretly favors Rush's reelection. The board president and the mayor are allies, and Daley is said to fear Barack Obama's appeal as a citywide candidate. Stroger will only say that Daley is "not actively opposing" Rush.

Obama migrated to the mainland for college, eventually graduating from Columbia University, and came to Chicago's south side in 1983 to work as a community organizer.

Obama says that when "Congressman Rush and his allies" rip him for going to Harvard and teaching at the U. of C., they're sending a signal to black kids that "if you're well educated, somehow you're not keeping it real." He refuses to be ashamed of his education.

"We have more in common with the Latino community, the white community, than we have differences, and you have to work with them, just from a practical political perspective," he [Obama] says. "It may give us a psychic satisfaction to curse out people outside our community and blame them for our plight. But the truth is, if you want to be able to get things accomplished politically, you've got to work with them."

Obama says he's gotten more money from black donors than any of his rivals, because a large chunk of Rush's cash is coming from political action committees. Half of Obama's finance committee is made up of "African-American businessmen, most of them under the age of 50," he says. "They're looking for a transition in political leadership that reflects their growing sophistication and their involvement in all levels of the economy."

It would appear that Bobby Rush was rooted in the old guard of black politics while Obama was, even at that stage, trying to move beyond skin colour.

However it all makes no difference as Rush beat Obama. After all Rush was the incumbent who had served four terms, while Obama was a relative unknown. Rush also gained a well of sympathy after his son was murdered.

Obama's Loss May Have Aided White House Bid

During the race, Obama sought to introduce himself in order to boost his name recognition, which registered at just 10 percent when he announced his candidacy.

Paul Green, director of the Institute for Politics at Chicago's Roosevelt University, said Rush did not try to out do Obama in the areas of oratory or charisma; Obama had an easy edge in both categories.
Green said that Bobby Rush "basically had a campaign in which the argument was, 'Obama's not one of us.'"

Five months before election day, something happened that made a come-from-behind victory for Obama all but impossible. Rush's 29-year-old son, Huey Rich, was murdered on Chicago's South Side.
Such personal tragedy brought a huge outpouring of public support and sympathy.

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But then the Republican senator from Illinois was suddenly persuaded that he was through with politics, after one term.

This is what the Republican Senator, Peter Fitzgerald, told the New York Times

Illinois Senator Announces He Won't Seek Re-election

Mr. Fitzgerald, 42, a maverick whose independent votes have left him few friends in the party establishment, said that he was willing to spend an additional $10 million of his family fortune but unwilling to devote the time necessary for a re-election campaign. He repeatedly described Illinois as ''staunchly'' and ''overwhelmingly'' Democratic, hinting at the challenge ahead for Republicans struggling to keep the seat.

''The cost of this race would come at too high a price, and I don't mean money,'' Mr. Fitzgerald told reporters gathered at the Union League Club downtown. ''There's something more precious than silver,'' he added. ''I could not be a senator and a father during this campaign. I could only be a candidate.''

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Mr. Fitzgerald's withdrawal comes at a difficult time for the Illinois Republican Party, which has been in disarray for the past two years because of a political corruption scandal that dogged former Gov. George Ryan and a bitter 2002 primary for governor. In January, Democrats took over the statehouse for the first time in a quarter-century, and Republicans continue to skirmish among themselves.

Fitzgerald had only won the seat for the Republicans after 20 years of Democratic control. He also spent a small fortune on the campaign.

Chicago Sun Times

Fitzgerald, 38, a banking heir and former state senator, poured more than $14.6 million of his personal fortune into the most expensive senatorial race in Illinois history. He spent more money on his '98 campaign than any other winning candidate for the U.S. Senate.

He defeated Carol Moseley Braun in a close race after she had faced allegations of corruption

Senate Women Face A Different Environment In 1998

Allegations or not, Moseley-Braun needs Clinton right now. Her six years in the Senate have been marked by stumbles, from a controversial summit with the late Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha in 1996 to her financial relationship with former fiance and campaign manager Jose Matthews. Recently, that relationship has come under scrutiny, both by the IRS and by lawyers for a travel agency suing Matthews. Her GOP opponent Peter Fitzgerald has wasted no time spotlighting those issues.

"We don't need to go through another campaign where we find out what the IRS probe is at the end of the campaign," Fitzgerald said on the campaign trail.

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Obama was able to win the Democratic nomination for this senate seat

He wasn't favourite to win the nomination but he appealed to a broad section of voters

Obama, 42, whose initial campaign strategy was to build a coalition of blacks and liberal whites, instead surprised even his strategists by amassing broad support from throughout the party.

He won over not only urban black voters, but also many suburban whites. With 89 percent of precincts reporting around the state, Obama led his next closest rival, Illinois Comptroller Dan Hynes, by 54 percent of the vote to 23 percent, as expected strong support for Hynes from Chicago's Democratic machine failed to materialize.

It didn't hurt his chances that the leading candidate turned out to be a wife beater (Blair Hull) and the other main choice was an uninspiring character who had initially supported the Iraq war (Dan Hynes).

Lots of choices in Illinois Senate race

according to an affidavit, which was just recently made public, Sexton asked for this order, claiming that Hull "will continue to inflict mental, emotional, and physical abuse upon me as he has done in the past."

The affidavit continues: "Blair is a violent man with an ungovernable temper, and the violence has recently been escalating. At this point, I fear for my emotional and physical well-being, as well as that of my daughter." In the affidavit, Sexton also recounted Hull hurling epithets at her and threatening her life.

Landslide victory for Obama in Senate primary

Hynes, the son of Southwest Side ward boss Tom Hynes, relied on Democratic ward organizations to churn out votes in the city's white and Latino ethnic wards. But Hynes' deliberate, play-it-safe campaign failed to ignite the party regulars, and Obama overwhelmingly defeated Hynes in Chicago, with the nominee getting 66 percent of the vote to just 16 percent for Hynes.

Compare that with Obama

Obama is the candidate who's drawing comparisons to Howard Dean — yet not for his guttural screams. Like Dean, he's an outspoken critic of the Iraq war, he's running as a progressive outsider, and he's secured important endorsements from some key politicians and labor unions. A University of Chicago law professor and member of the state Senate, Obama has also received praise for his smarts and his dynamic speeches. "He's better than Howard Dean," said one close observer of the race who doesn't have ties to any of the candidates. "He is the class of the field."

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and the winner of the republican nomination was suddenly persuaded that he no longer wanted a political career;

Jack Ryan suddenly didn't want a career? I think the sex scandal had more to do with it!

The Sex Scandal From Outer Space

Unfortunately for her ex-husband -- toothy and good-looking GOP Senate candidate Jack Ryan of Illinois -- Jeri Ryan's departure from the old themes has been disastrous for his political career. He found it just a little difficult this week explaining to heartland constituents his alleged romantic brainstorm: public sex in the kinds of clubs featuring mattresses in cubicles and whips and cages hanging from the ceiling.

She says the notion repulsed her. He denies proposing anything of the sort. Yesterday he announced he is quitting the race.

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and an out of state right wing Black man, Alan Keyes, was brought in as a Republican candidate who was absolutely guaranteed to loose.

Jack Ryan was already 20 points behind Obama before the sex story broke. Who exactly would want to take over when defeat was certain?

Poll: Democrat leads Senate race

Obama is supported by 52% of the state's registered voters while 30% favor Republican Jack Ryan, according to the first statewide Chicago Tribune/WGN-TV poll since the two won their primaries in March.

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These may all be coincidences, but they are troublingly consistent with the notion that Obama is a fraud, who’s career has been orchestrated, by Republicans and shady Democrats.

If, in a few sentences, John Hankey can be so disingenuous and biased against Obama then anything he states must be viewed in the same light.

I think we know who the real fraud is.

[CookieMonster]

Give me a 10 line synopsis.

I can do it in one word: Bunting.

(All these false flags strung together by a conspiracy string, brightens up any boring old factual forum )

Tee-hee-hee.

Nice one, I'm SO stealing that.