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    Is this proof of election fraud in New Hampshire?

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    Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.

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    Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.

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    Its a Zionist conspiracy
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    This is not positive proof.

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    It does however show how possible it is
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    The box they were playing with said "counted ballots" and "absentee ballots". Were they not obviously counted at that stage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antagoniser
    Its a Zionist conspiracy
    That's just what the neocons want you to believe .

    Notice that when the documentary makers put on and then peeled off the seals, they never put them on properly to begin with (they kept one end unattached). So Akrasia, to answer your question, not even close.

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    It is proven that vote rigging and gerrymandering happens in the US.

    But here in the Cloud-Cukckoo-Land, politics.ie, it is all about the conspiracies. Anyone who questions ANYTHING is a wingnut/nutjob.

    Great.

    Where do you all come from, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by strauss
    Quote Originally Posted by antagoniser
    Its a Zionist conspiracy
    That's just what the neocons want you to believe .

    Notice that when the documentary makers put on and then peeled off the seals, they never put them on properly to begin with (they kept one end unattached). So Akrasia, to answer your question, not even close.
    I did notice that they did it like that one time, but another time, it was definitely put on properly.

    The ballot boxes did say 'counted' on them, but there was a re-count underway due to significant irregularities in the first count.

    And the fact that the boxes were stored in an insecure location contrary to normal procedure, and then discovered in an empty and easily accessible building the next morning also indicates that there were shenanigans going on (or at the very least there was ample opportunity for a properly motivated person to do so)
    Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia
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    It's not proof of fraud. It's proof of a mickey-mouse system that could be vulnerable to fraud. Not quite the same thing. Blackboxvoting.org is a fairly serious organisation, I don't agree with everything they say, but they're certainly not conspiracy loons.

    Looking at this video, with the cardboard boxes, packing tape, and easily tampered seals, it's clear to me that (secure) electronic voting will eventually replace this way of doing it.

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