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    sadcitizen sadcitizen is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Walsh View Post
    The definition of course of a "BS" poll being any that shows a Clinton lead (ie 95%+ of all polls)
    No, any poll that shows she has a nonsense lead.

    Sure we'll see over the next week. If every poll changes then we can look back into the past and say "this and that poll were probably BS...let's see if they changed their methodology/sample/etc"
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    Jack Walsh Jack Walsh is online now

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadcitizen View Post
    No, any poll that shows she has a nonsense lead.

    Sure we'll see over the next week. If every poll changes then we can look back into the past and say "this and that poll were probably BS...let's see if they changed their methodology/sample/etc"
    Again, a "nonsense lead" is simply one that you don't like.

    I don't think Clinton is leading by 14 pts but I do accept she might be.
    At least three highly respected pollsters have produced polls in recent days showing double digit Clinton leads, and I'm sorry, but your biased hunch that their results may be "nonsense" is vastly outweighed by their respective expertise and experience of polling.
    Put simply
    If my life was on the line and I had to pick either them or you in terms of accuracy, you lose.
    As your oaf might say about stiffing other people with his debts "that's called being smart"
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    Anybody watching Newsnight and the interview with Tony Schwartz, who "co-wrote" "The Art of the Deal" with Trump? (It's also available on YouTube apparently)
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    Jack Walsh Jack Walsh is online now

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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    Anybody watching Newsnight and the interview with Tony Schwartz, who "co-wrote" "The Art of the Deal" with Trump? (It's also available on YouTube apparently)
    Donald Trump

    Terrific read.
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    Ardillaun Ardillaun is online now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Walsh View Post
    Again, a "nonsense lead" is simply one that you don't like.

    I don't think Clinton is leading by 14 pts but I do accept she might be.
    At least three highly respected pollsters have produced polls in recent days showing double digit Clinton leads, and I'm sorry, but your biased hunch that their results may be "nonsense" is vastly outweighed by their respective expertise and experience of polling.
    Pollsters want to get it right, or as right as possible. Their jobs depend on that.
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    Sexual Harassment Panda Sexual Harassment Panda is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardillaun View Post
    Pollsters want to get it right, or as right as possible. Their jobs depend on that.
    That's like saying journalists want to report the truth, "their job depends on it".

    Pollsters are made up of people and if they are filled with people ideologically opposed to Trump and they know that polls can actually affect the eventual outcome, it's not at all strange that they might (at least unconsciously) act accordingly.

    But the real problem isn't their bias, it's their blind spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    Anybody watching Newsnight and the interview with Tony Schwartz, who "co-wrote" "The Art of the Deal" with Trump? (It's also available on YouTube apparently)
    He has had a campaign against Trump from the start , appears continuously on nearly all the networks every week talking about what an obnoxious person Trump is. And maybe it is all true. Probably is knowing Trump.

    But there is also another person who worked on the security detail for the Clinton's when they were in the white house who claims that Clinton was an equally obnoxious person and written a book about it with many examples , he gets very little air time , as do the former maids etc who worked in the White house and said Hilary treated them like pieces of sh!t and are not buying her new caring for the minorities and lower paid workers guff she is coming out with now.
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    RTE radio doing a bit on some survey on how WE would vote.

    talking about trump down in dunbeg at the mo.

    this should be some laugh from camp hillary, i mean montrose.

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    SayItAintSo SayItAintSo is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by constitutionus View Post
    RTE radio doing a bit on some survey on how WE would vote.

    talking about trump down in dunbeg at the mo.

    this should be some laugh from camp hillary, i mean montrose.

    How would we vote (according to RTE)?
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