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    This is so good, it has to be a set up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    Romney Skips Iowa Family Forum as Emanuel Rallies Democrats - Businessweek


    Romney is odds on favourite to get the Republican nomination.

    If and when he suceeds in becomingg the candidate he will be a serious threat to Obama and could well win the race.


    Rahm Emanuel is worried:


    This shows how real a threat the Dems. see him as and how worried they are about their own man as unemployment contiues to rise
    Actually, it's starting to fall.
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    Oh boy, when George Will dumps all over your defence policies, you really are in trouble. From a mild-mannered, old-school conservative like Will, the tone in this article towards Romney is positively mocking:

    Mitt Romney opposes negotiations with the Taliban while they “are killing our soldiers.” Which means: No negotiations until the war ends, when there will be nothing about which to negotiate. “We don’t,” he says, “negotiate from a position of weakness as we are pulling our troops out.” That would mean stopping the drawdown of U.S. forces — except Romney would not negotiate even from a position of strength: “We should not negotiate with the Taliban. We should defeat the Taliban.” How could that be achieved in a second decade of war? What metrics would establish “defeat”? Details to come, perhaps.

    The U.S. defense budget is about 43 percent of the world’s total military spending — more than the combined defense spending of the next 17 nations, many of which are U.S. allies. Are Republicans really going to warn voters that America will be imperiled if the defense budget is cut 8 percent from projections over the next decade? In 2017, defense spending would still be more than that of the next 10 countries combined.

    Do Republicans think it is premature to withdraw as many as 7,000 troops from Europe two decades after the Soviet Union’s death? About 73,000 will remain, most of them in prosperous, pacific, largely unarmed and utterly unthreatened Germany. Why do so many remain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toman13 View Post
    Actually, it's starting to fall.
    It has fallen for 5 straight months on the trot.

    If things go on, the unemployment rate on the eve of election 2012 will be more or less what it was in Nov 2008 at the end of Bush's Reign of Error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    It has fallen for 5 straight months on the trot.

    If things go on, the unemployment rate on the eve of election 2012 will be more or less what it was in Nov 2008 at the end of Bush's Reign of Error.
    Reign of Error, I like that. The biggest risk I see to Obama now is Iran - if the Iranians declare they have a nuke his campaign is scuppered, if he launches an attack it could also go a number of ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toman13 View Post
    Actually, it's starting to fall.
    As the saying goes that was then this is now. Throwing money at the problem,QE3 and statistical mirages have all been suggested.
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    The latest poll data suggests now that Romney is in terminal decline. While he is clawing back the 15% lead Santorum had in Michigan, the fact that Santorum could achieve that sort of lead in Romney's home state, where his father was governor, is a sign of just how woeful Romney is. Michigan should be safe territory for Romney. Clearly it isn't.

    His performances to date have been overall dire. States he thought were in the bag were lost. He limped through three defeats in a row, and it now looks like his 'victory' in Maine was prematurely declared with all sorts of bizarre discrepancies showing up. For the supported certain nominee, his performance has been pathetic. He is up against probably the weakest field of candidates in the history of modern Republican presidential candidates, with three effectively unelectable rivals. And yet he looks like he may lose his home state!

    The Republicans must be shellshocked. A few months ago Obama looked like a one-term president. The economic statistics were going the wrong way. So were his poll numbers. All the GOP had to do was find a candidate capable of capturing the moderate middle ground and they would walk the election, or so they thought. Instead they see Obama climbing in the polls, the economic numbers going the right way for Obama, and they have been saddled with a chronically weak lead candidates and three second rates who would be wiped by Obama. In fact the numbers for Obama now say that he would comfortably beat all the possible GOP nominees convincingly.

    If it wasn't for the vast sums Romney has to bombard opponents with attack ads he would have completely crashed and burnt by now. He has only limped on so far by attacking the others. So it is their negatives, not his positives, that are keeping him in the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    The latest poll data suggests now that Romney is in terminal decline. While he is clawing back the 15% lead Santorum had in Michigan, the fact that Santorum could achieve that sort of lead in Romney's home state, where his father was governor, is a sign of just how woeful Romney is. Michigan should be safe territory for Romney. Clearly it isn't.

    His performances to date have been overall dire. States he thought were in the bag were lost. He limped through three defeats in a row, and it now looks like his 'victory' in Maine was prematurely declared with all sorts of bizarre discrepancies showing up. For the supported certain nominee, his performance has been pathetic. He is up against probably the weakest field of candidates in the history of modern Republican presidential candidates, with three effectively unelectable rivals. And yet he looks like he may lose his home state!

    The Republicans must be shellshocked. A few months ago Obama looked like a one-term president. The economic statistics were going the wrong way. So were his poll numbers. All the GOP had to do was find a candidate capable of capturing the moderate middle ground and they would walk the election, or so they thought. Instead they see Obama climbing in the polls, the economic numbers going the right way for Obama, and they have been saddled with a chronically weak lead candidates and three second rates who would be wiped by Obama. In fact the numbers for Obama now say that he would comfortably beat all the possible GOP nominees convincingly.

    If it wasn't for the vast sums Romney has to bombard opponents with attack ads he would have completely crashed and burnt by now. He has only limped on so far by attacking the others. So it is their negatives, not his positives, that are keeping him in the race.

    I tend to agree when this thread started ,despite all the people pleasing,Romney looked to be in with an excellent shout and Obama seemed to be faltering.

    Now that all the woes outlined above have befallen Romney and the whole Reps. ticket looks appalling [ a religious nut job ,a polygamist :--))),an economic extremist and Mitt] it does seem my original proposition was wrong and it is Barack all the way.
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    I wonder what the Romney machine will wheel out to couteract this.

    And how many zillions will it cost?

    Rick Santorum's mud ad sticks it to Mitt Romney | Paul Harris | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impartial_Eclipse View Post
    I wonder what the Romney machine will wheel out to couteract this.

    And how many zillions will it cost?

    Rick Santorum's mud ad sticks it to Mitt Romney | Paul Harris | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
    I must say I didn't think it was nearly as good as the guy from the Guardian made out-its ok hardly going to do either of them much good in the big race.
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