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Thread: The 'Tea-Party' movement went a bit hissy spit today in the US, using the 'N' word.

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    It is pure dribble. There is not one person in 100000 that knows what percentage of gdp that federal taxes are.

    They knew what taxes they themselves pay though.


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    caffeine overload

    l'd recommend a pot of red-leaf (Rooiboos) T, which can be pitchered and chilled (add oranges/lemons) to make excellent ice-tea .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreo Livermore View Post
    It is pure dribble. There is not one person in 100000 that knows what percentage of gdp that federal taxes are.

    They knew what taxes they themselves pay though.


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    And increasingly concerned how those taxes are being spent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine Murray View Post
    l'd recommend a pot of red-leaf (Rooiboos) T, which can be pitchered and chilled (add oranges/lemons) to make excellent ice-tea .
    Like the iced variety myself (Long Island preferred), nothing like it on a hot afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Gruppe Krisis have a lot of nuttiness but their "Manifesto Against Labour" contains a a very good analysis of both the "Sarah Pallin" and the "Hugo Chavez/Gerry Adams" wings of Capitalism...

    2. The neo-liberal apartheid society

    Should the successful sale of the commodity "labour power" become the exception instead of the rule, a society devoted to the irrational abstraction of labour is inevitably doomed to develop a tendency for social apartheid. All factions of the comprehensive all-parties consensus on labour, so to say the labour-camp, on the quiet accepted this logic long ago and even took over a strictly supporting role. There is no controversy on whether ever increasing sections of the population shall be pushed to the margin and shall be excluded from social participation; there is only controversy on how this social selection is to be pushed through.

    The neo-liberal faction trustfully leaves this dirty social-Darwinist business to the "invisible hand" of the markets. This conception is utilised to justify the dismantling of the welfare state, ostracising those who can no longer keep abreast in the rat race of competition. Only those who belong to the smirking brotherhood of globalisation winners are awarded the quality of being a human. It goes without saying that the capitalist end-in-itself may claim any natural resources of the planet. When they can no longer be profitably mobilised, they have to lie fallow even if entire populations go hungry.

    The police, salvation sects, the Mafia, and charity organisations become responsible for that annoying human litter. In the USA and most of the central European countries, more people are imprisoned than in any average military dictatorship. In Latin America, day after day an ever-larger number of street urchins and other poor are hunted down by free enterprise death-squads than dissidents were killed during the worst periods of political repression. There is only one social function left for the ostracised: to be the warning example. Their fate is meant to goad on those who still participate in the rat race of fighting for the leftovers. And even the losers have to be kept in hectic moving so that they don't hit on the idea to of rebelling against the outrageous impositions they face.

    Nevertheless, even at the price of self-annihilation, for most people the brave new world of the totalitarian market economy will only provide for a live in shadow as shadow-humans in a "shady" economy. As low-wage-slaves and democratic serfs of the "service society, they will have to fawn on the well-off winners of globalisation. The modern "working poor" may shine the shoes of the last businessmen of the dying labour society, may sell contaminated hamburgers to them, or may join the Security Corps to guard their shopping malls. Those who left behind their brain on the coat rack may dream of working their way up to the position of a service industry millionaire.

    In Anglo-Saxon countries this horror scenario is reality meanwhile as it is in Third World countries and Eastern Europe; and Euroland is determined to catch up in rapid strides. The relevant financial papers make no secret of how they imagine the future of labour. The children in Third World countries who wash windscreens at polluted crossroads are depicted as the shining example of "entrepreneurial initiative" and shall serve as a role model for the jobless in the respective local "service desert". "The role model for the future is the individual as the entrepreneur of his own labour power, being provident and solely responsible for all his own life" says the "Commission on future social questions of the free states of Bavaria and Saxony". In addition: "There will be stronger demand for ordinary person-related services, if the services rendered become cheaper, i.e. if the "service provider" will earn lower wages". In a society of human "self-respect", such a statement would trigger off social revolt. However, in a world of domesticated workhorses, it will only engender a helpless nod.

    Manifesto against Labour - Gruppe Krisis

    This is some of the worst rubbish I have every seen.

    The teabagger movement was formed to protest the bailouts. Why are you jibbering about something you know nothing about whatsoever


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreo Livermore View Post
    This is some of the worst rubbish I have every seen.

    The teabagger movement was formed to protest the bailouts. Why are you jibbering about something you know nothing about whatsoever


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    I found that post completely incomprehensible, thanks for reading it with a critical eye. It looked like a cut-and-paste job myself.

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    Liam, if you make your own use 'eleven o clock' Rooibos . Tis yummy and negligible on the old caffeine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine Murray View Post
    Liam, if you make your own use 'eleven o clock' Rooibos . Tis yummy and negligible on the old caffeine.
    Don't knock caffeine, it has got me through many a day.

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    l am disallowed it , but have found substitutes, NOW ordinary T tastes *brackish*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamfoley View Post
    I found that post completely incomprehensible, thanks for reading it with a critical eye. It looked like a cut-and-paste job myself.

    I read through it. In a different thread it could be classed as a viewpoint that some believe holds merit. However the poster seems to think that the teabaggers are all corporate CEOs or something.



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