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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    I can't speak for the school, I can only make a general argument. But I doubt gay Protestant parents are okay either, or Protestant divorced and remarried parents. The specific regulations at this school, I don't know. If I knew I could comment.
    you don't know alot about this specific case now, but a few posts back you seemed to know everything there was to know about the school, specifically about it's "quota system" for non catholics, you also claimed to know alot about the parents religious beliefes, but now you admit you don't know these things, funny that.

    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Wrong. On a general level, Catholic doctrine is not solely Biblical in origin, it is based on centuries of tradition as revealed by the Holy Spirit too. It is low-church Protestants who rely solely on the Bible. On the specific level, there is a clear understanding that ALL (heterosexual or homosexual) sexual relations outside marriage are sinful, and that necessarily includes lesbian relationships.
    OK, so the catholic church added things to their teachings that are not to be found in the bible, that's fair I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    They clearly are not practising Catholics if they persistently reject Church teaching. You might argue that the Church teaching is wrong or backwards or whatever, but it is Church teaching that the only morally acceptable sexual relationship is that between a man and a woman who are married to each other. I agree with you on the second point about children of divorced and remarried parents.
    This case is getting quite a lot of attention in the blogosphere and there don't appear to be many catholics who agree with this decision. The parents of all the schoolchildren are against the decision and the parishioners seem to be supportive of the protesters outside this priests church. Even the comments on the blogs are unusually supportive for religious groups in the US. Not the usual hatespeech we are all familiar with.

    Protesters Rally as Child of Lesbian is Denied Enrollment at Catholic Kindergarten - ParentDish
    From the editorial advisory board: Sacred Heart of Jesus and lesbian parents - Boulder Daily Camera
    Catholic Culture : Latest Headlines : Denver Catholic school: Lesbian couple?s child may not re-enroll

    Still maybe the church should be encouraged to pursue this policy to the fullest. If they only offer education to the children of "good" catholics they hurry their own demise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    You know precisely what I mean - they almost certainly do not accept that their relationship is sinful.
    How do you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgcsb2 View Post
    you don't know alot about this specific case now, but a few posts back you seemed to know everything there was to know about the school, specifically about it's "quota system" for non catholics, you also claimed to know alot about the parents religious beliefes, but now you admit you don't know these things, funny that.
    Twisting my words, not really on. I said I don't know what their specific admissions policy is in relation to the types of non-Catholics they allow in, what their specific requirements are (thus being unable to comment). I do know that Catholic schools letting in minority quotas is always a result of a requirement to do so in return for funding. So don't make up stuff about what I claimed.



    OK, so the catholic church added things to their teachings that are not to be found in the bible, that's fair I suppose.
    It's called Revealed Tradition, it's not exactly a secret - they believe that the Bible is not the be all and end all, that the Holy Spirit continues to guide and has done for 2000 years since Biblical times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imokyrok View Post
    This case is getting quite a lot of attention in the blogosphere and there don't appear to be many catholics who agree with this decision. The parents of all the schoolchildren are against the decision and the parishioners seem to be supportive of the protesters outside this priests church. Even the comments on the blogs are unusually supportive for religious groups in the US. Not the usual hatespeech we are all familiar with.

    Protesters Rally as Child of Lesbian is Denied Enrollment at Catholic Kindergarten - ParentDish
    From the editorial advisory board: Sacred Heart of Jesus and lesbian parents - Boulder Daily Camera
    Catholic Culture : Latest Headlines : Denver Catholic school: Lesbian couple?s child may not re-enroll

    Still maybe the church should be encouraged to pursue this policy to the fullest. If they only offer education to the children of "good" catholics they hurry their own demise.
    The parents are not necessarily in the right simply by dint of being parents...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    How do you know?
    Because if they really believed that, if they really believed they were going to suffer an eternity of unimaginable pain and sorrow, that they were cutting themselves off from God's Grace, then they'd probably be complete psychological basket cases by now...

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    I do know that Catholic schools letting in minority quotas is always a result of a requirement to do so in return for funding.
    But only acceptable minorities!

    There are two issues that strike me. The first is why a lesbian couple would want to send their children to a Catholic school, unless there's no viable alternative (a situation that prevails in most of Ireland). Secondly, why should the school make children suffer for what it perceives to be the sins of this couple? Surely the Christian thing to do is to educate the children on the same basis as all the other children?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sondagefaux View Post
    But only acceptable minorities!
    Catholics are a minority in Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Because if they really believed that, if they really believed they were going to suffer an eternity of unimaginable pain and sorrow, that they were cutting themselves off from God's Grace, then they'd probably be complete psychological basket cases by now...
    You would think so, wouldn't you?

    I bet they even eat shellfish, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgcsb2 View Post
    Catholics are a minority in Colorado.
    Especially gay ones.

    Why is the school picking on the children? What have they done to warrant being kicked out of the school? Does the school operate the same policy towards the children of divorced and remarried couples? If not, why not?

    Seems like a clear-cut case of selective application of the rules to me.

    There's a word for that, can't think of it right now...

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