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About LinkBacksnot really anyone's business, but if they are mass goers, presumabely they accept that as do most catholicsOriginally Posted by toxic avenger
not really anyone's business, but if they are mass goers, presumabely they accept that as do most catholics
They accept that they are in a persistent state of mortal sin and that they will, without repentance and amendment, go to hell? They go to confession and confess this is the case and will continue to be the case even if they are granted absolution?
Rubbish, and you know it.
The problem here isn't the CC or Catholics like TA who actually know what they believe in, it's all the á la carte Catholics who want to be Catholics without adhering to rules of the Church.
You're either in or you're out, and if you're in you can have no complaints when you're punished for not adhering to the rules. If all those wishy washy I'm a Catholic but I'm too thick/lazy/apathetic to actually know what the entails people changed either to another religion/sect of christianity there'd be more choice of schools, choices that acutally suit the views of the wishy washy Catholics.
If the school want to be consistent and reject the catholic children of catholic parents who are living in a state of persistent sin then they would have to refuse the catholic children of catholic parents who are divorced, who are remarried, who have ever had or procured an abortion, who ever miss mass, who persistently lie, or who are having an affair, or who use contraception etc.
It's like the campaign for a conscientious objection for registrars in civil registrations. Why no campaign for conscientious objection to registrars registering second marraiges?
It's a red herring for blatant homophobia.
What Cardinal Brady and all the other catholic religious in covering up child abuse was far worse yet these are the people running the catholic schools.
We're all sinners according to Catholic teaching so why does the sin of gay sex receive more punishment (or in this case punishing the sin of the parent through the child) than other sins?
does the school have a policy of refusing children who's parents are in a "persistent state of mortal sin" or just the gay ones?
I thought they did receive some minor funding, no? In terms of book funding and school meals. It cause uproar in the 50's with Cardinal Spellman, from memory.
"......... we must sometimes listen to those who, consumed with zeal, have scant judgment or balance. To such ones the modern world is nothing but betrayal and ruin.........We feel bound to disagree with these prophets of doom who are forever forecasting calamity -- as though the world's end were imminent."
Wait now. You're now bringing in the hypocrisy of Cardinal Brady for some reason - which has nothing to do with the argument here. It's not homophobia - I'd argue the same case for parents who support abortion or euthanasia (though not necessarily for a parent who had had an abortion - who's to know whether they regret it, or were aware of what they were doing) or for parents who were in second or third marriages or any parents who were obviously not practising what they claimed to the school to believe. It's not about sinning, otherwise no-one would be let in, it's about persistent rejection or ignoring of church teaching. You are essentially arguing that Catholic schools should let anyone in, regardless of their beliefs, so long as they claim to be Catholics - and thus that actual Catholics who accept Church teaching should face rejection in favour of such people. Utter hypocrisy and completely unfair. It's very simple, if you don't accept Catholic teaching then leave the Catholic schools for kids of families who do.
Persistent rejection of Church teaching, I'd certainly hope so.
There are protestant children in the school. Obviously, their parents reject the teachings of the catholic church.
I have never met a Catholic who claimed not to be a sinner.
Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos.
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