Children thrown out of Catholic School

[imokyrok]

Perhaps, perhaps not, but I doubt there isn't much more to this story. As to the 'state's children', you can make the argument that there shouldn't be state funding for Catholic schools, but I can't see a legitimate argument for Catholic schools being forced to to go against their ethos, whether state funded or not, without completely invalidating the whole point of Catholic education completely. If the state accepts, and subsidises, Catholic schools, it is inherently recognising their right to operate, and teach, according to their values. If that inherent recognition was a problem for the state they should simply say so and give the Catholic schools the option of finding alternative funding.

So you're in favour of punishing the children for the "sins" of their parents?

[corelli]

Minor school in US minor state bans children because their parents don't sign up to values of school............oh wait because its Catholic church and they are Gay its worldwide news NOT.

Next up Catholic church bans children of Satanists and they feel picked on.

Islamic School bans Mormons.........etc etc etc

Catholic schools in the US are not comparative to Irish schools in terms of the level of State involvement, save for certain funding general to all schools. To a great extent they are private schools and have a greater ability to decide their own rules. It's obviously reinforcing to the children, in a very damaging way, the "wrongness" of their parents relationship, though, on the other hand, if the parents don't obey the rules of the club, they don't get to be in the club.

[cgcsb2]

Perhaps, perhaps not, but I doubt there isn't much more to this story. As to the 'state's children', you can make the argument that there shouldn't be state funding for Catholic schools, but I can't see a legitimate argument for Catholic schools being forced to to go against their ethos, whether state funded or not, without completely invalidating the whole point of Catholic education completely. If the state accepts, and subsidises, Catholic schools, it is inherently recognising their right to operate, and teach, according to their values. If that inherent recognition was a problem for the state they should simply say so and give the Catholic schools the option of finding alternative funding.

I agree, the school should not draw state funding if it selectively choses which children it will educate and which ones it will not based on their family's circumstances.

[toxic avenger]

So you're in favour of punishing the children for the "sins" of their parents?

Yes, that's what I said, isn't it???

My point was that they shouldn't pull fast ones and then complain if the school finds out and acts on it.

[liamfoley]

Catholic schools in the US are not comparative to Irish schools in terms of the level of State involvement, save for certain funding general to all schools. To a great extent they are private schools and have a greater ability to decide their own rules. It's obviously reinforcing to the children, in a very damaging way, the "wrongness" of their parents relationship, though, on the other hand, if the parents don't obey the rules of the club, they don't get to be in the club.

Private schools, especially those along denominational lines receive no funding whatsoever from states or city government, i.e the proceeds of taxes. There are school districts that issue so called 'vouchers' to parents. Parents can then take these to local private schools and apply the voucher to the fees. Very often they will have to pay something over and above the voucher amount. The reason why vouchers are issued are most often because local public schools are dangerous or underperforming. If a school takes vouchers in such a context their ability to choose which students they take or refuse is restricted. If the above school was one that took vouchers they might have a case. If not then no case. If not, then the reasons why a same sex couple would choose to send children to a Catholic school is strange to say the least.

[imokyrok]

Yes, that's what I said, isn't it???

My point was that they shouldn't pull fast ones and then complain if the school finds out and acts on it.

Well it certainly sounded like it. If the church is going to kick out children on the basis of how their parents behave then every parent who misses mass on a Sunday should get their kids dumped out of catholic education too. That's also a mortal sin as you know.

[imokyrok]

BTW why are you putting the word parents in inverted commas? Did Captain Williard/robert hack into your computer?

[toxic avenger]

Well it certainly sounded like it. If the church is going to kick out children on the basis of how their parents behave then every parent who misses mass on a Sunday should get their kids dumped out of catholic education too. That's also a mortal sin as you know.

Catholic schools everywhere aim to give priority, as is right, to Catholics, and will aim to ensure that the parents of the children are actuall practising Catholics who would plave value on a religious ethos in education, not just lying chancers trying to get their kids what they believe would be superior education without having to pay for it. Otherwise, why bother existing? They have every right to take action when they find out they have been conned.

[toxic avenger]

BTW why are you putting the word parents in inverted commas? Did Captain Williard/robert hack into your computer?

Only one of the couple could be a biological parent, and there is no legal recognition that a gay partner of that biological parent is a parent too.

[cgcsb2]

Only one of the couple could be a biological parent,

so if a married, infertile, straight couple adopted a child, would you also call them 'parents'?

and there is no legal recognition that a gay partner of that biological parent is a parent too.

Actually in Colorado, I think there is.