Predict the Health Care Vote

[sondagefaux]

Pelosi now says that the vote in the House is to take place Sunday. Denis Kucinich is the latest NO voter to change his mind and he now says that he will vote for Obama's Health Bill. Nancy has the votes counted and it is now or never.


I believe that everyone can see that Obama is destroying the democrat party but the sitution is they are going to get wiped out anyway so some have accepted their fate and will vote for the bill.

I still believe that it will not pass. I expect that democrats in what were safe seats before Obama came along are now sweating. Massachusetts is a perfect example. The 10 House representatives say how Obama lost Ted Kennedy's seat so what chance have they. Maybe Lynch and Capuano will come to their senses and save themselves. Seven others are so stupid that they are on the USS Barak Titanic. The tenth has already announced that he is not seeking reelection


My Prediction. Obama Loses.

Lets hear from the self professed experts

Which of the 2 highlighted statements are correct?

Whenever you're ready...

[Oreo Livermore]

I will make it easy for you Dotski.

1.Was Obama short the votes?

2. Did he sign an Executive Order preventing abortion funding?

3. Does everyone agree that this executive order means exactly nothing?

4. Did Stupac flip for absolutely nothing?


Now do you understand the situation?. Probably not

Which of them is not a fact HBAP. Either you or the sock puppet can answer.

Stop running

[hiding behind a poster]

Which of them is not a fact HBAP. Either you or the sock puppet can answer.

Stop running

Running? Why would I be running? I'm sitting right here, laughing my head off at you.

[sondagefaux]

Which of them is not a fact HBAP. Either you or the sock puppet can answer.

Stop running

I'm nobody's sock puppet boy. Got that straight boy?

You screwed up your prediction in the first place. If you had said that it wouldn't pass unless Stupak and co. changed their minds you'd have been right.

You didn't make any such caveat, so you were wrong.

Ignore list for the ignorant.

[Oreo Livermore]

Running? Why would I be running? I'm sitting right here, laughing my head off at you.

You are not answering the question either. That is because everyone knows that these 4 facts are not in dispute and you have no answer.

[sondagefaux]

Looks like it's going to be up to the Supreme Court to decide.

At least 11 states, including Florida, Michigan and Alabama, plan to band together in a collective lawsuit claiming the reforms infringe on state powers.

"If the president signs this bill into law, we will file a lawsuit to protect the rights and the interests of American citizens," said Florida attorney general Bill McCollum, a Republican.

The Republican attorney general of Virginia plans to file a lawsuit in federal court in Richmond challenging the overhaul's mandate to force people to buy insurance.

Several constitutional scholars cast doubt on the prospects for success of the Republican lawsuits. "Congress has clear authority to pass this type of legislation," said Mark Rosen of Chicago-Kent College of Law.

Republicans to challenge healthcare bill - The Irish Times - Mon, Mar 22, 2010

[hiding behind a poster]

You are not answering the question either. That is because everyone knows that these 4 facts are not in dispute and you have no answer.

What's the title of the thread again? Oh yeah, "predict the health care vote". Not "predict the health care vote, and then make a string of excuses afterwards if you're wrong".

[Oreo Livermore]

Still no answer to the question. Not surprising as they are 4 facts.

[hiding behind a poster]

Still no answer to the question. Not surprising as they are 4 facts.

Why would I bother? I'll remind you, once again, that you predicted Obama would lose the vote, whereas I predicted:

Obama is an extremely calculating individual, and won't have pushed for this vote without knowing he has the numbers. It will pass.

Why don't you just be man enough to admit - you set yourself up for a fall, (particularly in asking for "self-proclaimed experts" to give their predictions) and you fell. You got it wrong. What Stupak did or didn't do is irrelevant. You made a call, and got it wrong.

Now why don't you put your hands up, and admit it. Like a man. Instead of the pathetic faux hard-man persona that you love to adopt when you post here. Because we all know how you got yourself into this mess. You've spent so long on here trying to make other people believe that Obama is either stupid, dangerous or both, that you've ended up believing your own nonsense - and as a result, it never crossed your mind that it'd be fairly unlikely for a President to bring THE key bill on THE key part of his domestic platform to a vote, if he wasn't extremely certain that he had the votes to do so. You seduced yourself with the thought of what a humiliation losing this vote would be for Obama, to such an extent that you made yourself believe it would happen.

And now, hoist by your own petard, you're desperately searching for excuses. I don't care what Stupak did. I don't care whether you thought he would or he wouldn't. Nor do I care about what the executive order does or doesn't do. Because there was no way on earth Obama was bringing this to a vote until he was damn sure he had the numbers - because a defeat would have destroyed his presidency. And THAT is why, the second this vote was scheduled, it was obvious that it would pass. And THAT is why I correctly predicted that.

Take the anti-Obama shades off next time, Dan. Because when you have them on, you can't spot the glaringly obvious.

Goodnight.

[Oreo Livermore]

I am man enough to admit not to have forseen Stupac flip for absolutely nothing. That flip made my prediction wrong. Simple as that. As it turned out Stupac hoodwinked me and all his constituents. Fortunately the bishops expressly appealed to him not to flip.

This prediction, I got wrong.


I am not unhappy though. Millions of angry people talking about the Constitution is just what I and the Paulites wished for.

Goodnigt