Far Left Losing Control of American Schools.

[antiestablishmentarian]

what???????? what school was this? what year?

It was in 2006/2007 when I did my leaving cert, and the school is in galway but I won't name it except to say its in the city

[liamfoley]

It was in 2006/2007 when I did my leaving cert, and the school is in galway but I won't name it except to say its in the city

So basically you can say anything you want and expect people to believe you because you do not want to identify anyone. No evidence, no happen.

[bogmanjoe]

Gimpanzee
Plant food???? Did the Christian Brothers not teach you to be quiet in order to stop making a fool of yourself?

cgcsb2
CO2 is not plant "food", good grief, biology was never your strong suit I'd imagine




Wow it,s amazing the amount of people who can,t tell differance between carbon dioxide
(plant food) and carbon monoxide (poison gas). Chemicaly it,s only one molecule
but in effect the differance is huge.

Carbon dioxide (chemical formula CO2) is a chemical compound composed of two oxygen atoms covalently bonded to a single carbon atom. It is a gas at standard temperature and pressure and exists in Earth's atmosphere in this state. CO2 is a trace gas being only 0.038% of the atmosphere.

Carbon dioxide is used by plants during photosynthesis to make sugars, which may either be consumed in respiration or used as the raw material to produce other organic compounds needed for plant growth and development.

This is either an indictment of the Irish education system or a testimony to
RTE,s abilty to indoctrinate the Irish public. The new Catholic church you might say.
Or maybe chimp and cgcsb2 have a combined age of about 20.

[cgcsb2]

Gimpanzee
Plant food???? Did the Christian Brothers not teach you to be quiet in order to stop making a fool of yourself?

cgcsb2
CO2 is not plant "food", good grief, biology was never your strong suit I'd imagine




Wow it,s amazing the amount of people who can,t tell differance between carbon dioxide
(plant food) and carbon monoxide (poison gas). Chemicaly it,s only one molecule
but in effect the differance is huge.

Carbon dioxide (chemical formula CO2) is a chemical compound composed of two oxygen atoms covalently bonded to a single carbon atom. It is a gas at standard temperature and pressure and exists in Earth's atmosphere in this state. CO2 is a trace gas being only 0.038% of the atmosphere.

Carbon dioxide is used by plants during photosynthesis to make sugars, which may either be consumed in respiration or used as the raw material to produce other organic compounds needed for plant growth and development.

This is either an indictment of the Irish education system or a testimony to
RTE,s abilty to indoctrinate the Irish public. The new Catholic church you might say.
Or maybe chimp and cgcsb2 have a combined age of about 20.

I know what the difference between carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide is, neither of them are "plant food" you'd be wrong, I'm more than 20 myself.

[pete2]

it's human nature to put an ideological spin in children's hostory text books?

The EU do it too.

...Politely but firmly, the Council of the European Union recommended that the candidate countries abandon the kind of ethnic mobilization sought by former nationalist histories, and give a voice to minorities, local communities, regional interests, or gender issues. This was a new European history based on critical thinking and multiple interpretations...
Eurozine - The history textbooks controversy in Romania - Razvan Paraianu Five years on

Which is denied by the EU of course (they spin it in a much more positive fashion here). In the EU recommendation (1283 from 1996), the subject of history is described:

..History also has a key political role to play in today's Europe. It can contribute to greater understanding, tolerance and confidence between individuals and between the peoples of Europe - or it can become a force for division, violence and intolerance.

For the EU, as many of the member states know, a subject such as history has a political result, and therefore schooling in that subject should not just be about "facts" but about intended political outcomes. Examples of "manipulation" of history by politicians and in eastern europe are then remarked on in Rec 1283. But this is where the EU goes wrong since eastern europes experience and the experience of Germans is not every europeans experience. Irelands experience is not like theirs.

Leaving aside all the talk in the document of "co-ordination" with centralized committees when drawing up syllabus, it is clear that the EU has some political aims of its own to get across through history teaching. One aim outlined is "to appreciate cultural diversity" and that "local and national (but not nationalist) history should be taught as well as the history of minorities. Controversial, sensitive and tragic events should be balanced by positive mutual influences;" Excluding sensitive and tragic events from Irish history isnt really going to work, it will suit colonial expansionist nations like France, Britain, and Germany however.

All benign stuff some would say, but its still politicized education with a focus on minority rights, "diversity", gender, internationalism, and the glories of EU federalism. I can see how easy it would be to use these guidelines to characterize european national histories up to the EU as somehow "dysfunctional". Wouldn't be in the EU's self interest to do that now would it?

[jcdf]

Which is denied by the EU of course (they spin it in a much more positive fashion here). In the EU recommendation (1283 from 1996), the subject of history is described:

The EU has the benefit that it is heavily divided by language. This makes the likelihood of history books published in Brussels being forced on us all quite small. Unlike the USA where many of it's books come from the same place, Texas.

[Joseph Emmet]

Read this and weep:

"...when it comes to textbooks, what happens in Texas rarely stays in Texas. The reasons for this are economic: Texas is the nation’s second-largest textbook market and one of the few biggies where the state picks what books schools can buy rather than leaving it up to the whims of local districts, which means publishers that get their books approved can count on millions of dollars in sales. As a result, the Lone Star State has outsized influence over the reading material used in classrooms nationwide, since publishers craft their standard textbooks based on the specs of the biggest buyers. As one senior industry executive told me, “Publishers will do whatever it takes to get on the Texas list.”

Until recently, Texas’s influence was balanced to some degree by the more-liberal pull of California, the nation’s largest textbook market. But its economy is in such shambles that California has put off buying new books until at least 2014. This means that McLeroy and his ultraconservative crew have unparalleled power to shape the textbooks that children around the country read for years to come."

Revisionaries - Mariah Blake

Give me a break. In 35 years of teaching and having served on numerous textbook adoption committees, we always ignored any texts which were printed for Texas.

Also just a week ago the governors and education reps from all the states agreed to unify the curriculum standards through the U.S. Two states refused to come aboard, Texas was one of them. What comes out of Texas will influence no one.

[USER1234]

Give me a break. In 35 years of teaching and having served on numerous textbook adoption committees, we always ignored any texts which were printed for Texas.

Also just a week ago the governors and education reps from all the states agreed to unify the curriculum standards through the U.S. Two states refused to come aboard, Texas was one of them. What comes out of Texas will influence no one.

Good to know & thank god for that!!!!

[liamfoley]

Give me a break. In 35 years of teaching and having served on numerous textbook adoption committees, we always ignored any texts which were printed for Texas.

Also just a week ago the governors and education reps from all the states agreed to unify the curriculum standards through the U.S. Two states refused to come aboard, Texas was one of them. What comes out of Texas will influence no one.

California is so smart, Texas is so stupid!!!!!!!!
How many schools will they close in Cali this year? Meanwhile Texas' economy is more than holding it's own and taxes meant for schools make it to schools, laugh that one off.

[Joseph Emmet]

history lesson:
Bush senior defeated the Iraqi military (which was armed with American weapons) in 1991 in the Gulf war. Following the defeat of Iraqi forces, Bush withdrew and allowed Sadam to return to power, esentially defeating the purpose of invading Iraq in the first place, but the war did drive up oil prices much to the delight of the oil companies that funded his election campaign

First of all Sadam gained power in 1979 and was NEVER out of power. True the Iraqi army was defeated in 1991 and driven out of Kuwait, U.S. forces did not pursue to Bagdad, they pushed them back far enough to secure Kuwait, leaving Sadam in power and most of the Iraqi army in tact.

Bush did NOT install Sadam as you said. Sadam was never out of power. Get your facts straight.