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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyessus View Post
    He is not the first politician hounded from office because of his Christian beliefs. Remember Rocco Buttiglione, the Italian nominee to the European Commission?



    “I may think that homosexuality is a sin,” he said, in response to a question from a member of the European Parliament (MEP) last month, “but this has no effect on politics, unless I say that homosexuality is a crime…The state has no right to stick its nose into these things.”


    As Mr Buttiglione has now found out, thinking homosexuality a sin has a profound effect on the politics of the European Parliament. Angered by his comments, many of the parliament's 732 members threatened to veto the new commission unless Mr Buttiglione were(sic) moved from his portfolio of justice and home affairs. Last Wednesday, mere hours before the vote was due, Josť Manuel Barroso, who will head the new commission, called off the vote, promising to find a solution to the impasse “in the next few weeks”.

    Buttiglione backs out | The Economist

    So much for "liberal, tolerant" attitudes. Of course the European Parliament would never have the nerve to subject a Muslim candidate to the same intrusive questioning about his personal religious beliefs, let alone veto his appointment. Perish the thought! They are far too "liberal, tolerant and inclusive" for that.

    (Except when it comes to Christians of course.)
    The message from the EU and UK is very clear - Christian politicians will be tolerated (for now), but not in any influential or powerful role.
    It will be interesting to see whether or not a sincere Christian/Catholic can make it to the top table in Ireland.
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    Simple as this, you're a member of a church/organisation that has certain views at odds with the law of the land and you are prominent in politics.
    Your are going to be frequently asked to reconcile your loyalty to the church/organisation with that of your duty as a politician. It is currently happening to the DUP, the shinners face that grilling often.
    And only right too.
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    Pies rightie-tighties level of political understanding just sunk another few notches, I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratio Et Fides View Post
    It would be very possible in a united Ireland that the DUP could make Fianna Fail recover it's soul and FF could school the DUP in civilized ethics. Something that also needs to be considered is that getting rid of the 8 th in the South would make moves to a united Ireland much more ugly and violent.
    more Catholic scaremongering. And will the sky fall down also ?

    you christians have had a couple thousand years in power. And now you are a discredited busted flush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter-Gatherer View Post
    more Catholic scaremongering. And will the sky fall down also ?

    you christians have had a couple thousand years in power. And now you are a discredited busted flush.

    Indeed. And have you any idea of what the world looked like a couple of thousand years ago before the advent of Christianity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    Just shows what a sick society over there the so called 'Liberal' agenda has produced

    - that even the leader of a Liberal Party is hounded from Office

    - because of his Christian beliefs....
    Hounded from office? Indeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyessus View Post
    Indeed. And have you any idea of what the world looked like a couple of thousand years ago before the advent of Christianity?
    Yes. Fortunately the non-Christians invented paper and writing and other fancy stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket View Post
    Simple as this, you're a member of a church/organisation that has certain views at odds with the law of the land and you are prominent in politics.
    Your are going to be frequently asked to reconcile your loyalty to the church/organisation with that of your duty as a politician. It is currently happening to the DUP, the shinners face that grilling often.
    And only right too.
    But Tim Farron didn't have views "at odds with the law". He may think gay sex is a "sin", as Muslim MP might think drinking alcohol is a "sin", but if he (and the Muslim) fully accept that these things should be legal, why should either of them be hassled about it?
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    Err Frank Field - historically and still today very influential Labour party MP.
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    Andy Burnham - has worn his Catholicism on his sleeve before now.
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