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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth.ie View Post
    The level of paedophilia amongst Catholic Priests was around the same level as the general public, but they have been trounced by liberals and the media for the last 10 years (despite 98% being not guilt of any crimes).
    What happened in these Labour constituencies, given the amount of (reported) victims in such a shorter space of time is a lot worse.
    New Labour and the liberal left are the most shallow, contemptible dregs of society and hopefully 2015 will see the nail in their coffin.
    People need to go to jail over this
    There was a lot of strange ideology doing the rounds in the 60s and 70s among the far left about the need to break down bourgeois sexual morality, up to and including condoning the sexualization of children. It was actually quite a big deal in Germany an other countries, and, with what we now know about Labour and the PIE, it seems to have existed on some level in England. This is not to be confused with more traditional sources of perversion to be found in the Army, orphanages public schools and, various Churches. Right wing kiddie-fiddling always knew it was a sick thing, but it seems that in the pervasive spirit of Cultural Marxism of the times, some on the Left were prepared to come out and say that kiddie fiddling was a good revolutionary thing that help free people from oppressive bourgeois morality. Just ask a certain prominent member of the European Parliament with a double-barrelled name.

    The Sexual Revolution and Children: How the Left Took Things Too Far - SPIEGEL ONLINE

    Germany's left has its own tales of abuse. One of the goals of the German 1968 movement was the sexual liberation of children. For some, this meant overcoming all sexual inhibitions, creating a climate in which even pedophilia was considered progressive......................................E ven a cursory review of the material revealed that the educational work at the Rote Freiheit ("Red Freedom") after-school center was unorthodox. The goal of the center was to shape the students into "socialist personalities," and its educational mission went well beyond supervised play. The center's agenda included "agitprop" on the situation in Vietnam and "street fighting," in which the children were divided into "students" and "cops."

    Pantomiming Intercourse

    The educators' notes indicate that they placed a very strong emphasis on sex education. Almost every day, the students played games that involved taking off their clothes, reading porno magazines together and pantomiming intercourse.

    According to the records, a "sex exercise" was conducted on Dec. 11 and a "************************************g hour" on Jan. 14. An entry made on Nov. 26 reads: "In general, by lying there we repeatedly provoked, openly or in a hidden way, sexual innuendoes, which were then expressed in pantomimes, which Kurt and Rita performed together on the low table (as a stage) in front of us."
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe View Post
    BBC News - UK children suffered sex abuse on 'industrial scale'

    Words of UK Prime Minister David Cameron......

    Having listened to the people on here claiming again and again that it really was down to Catholic Church and that aside from Catholic church it was relatively minor this comes as not a surprise.
    Again seeing the claims that the state was a better protector of people than anybody else was a mantra pushed forward by same individuals.

    Time and again UK Councils, Police Forces and Governments overlooked what was happening or pretending it didn't exist.

    UK has already abolished Rotherham council and appointed commisioners for the systematic action in refusing to acknowledge there was even a problem. A South Yorkshire police officer mysteriously killed by a car was up to his neck in it.

    Rotherham, Manchester, Birmingham, Oxford, Rochdale, Islington, Haringay, Bristol, Carmartenshire and the list goes on and on of councils who completely and utterly refused to even acknowledge a problem existed not just once but again and again.

    Margaret Hodge MP pretty much ignored child abuse issues when Leader of Islington Council, cutting budgets and pretending it didn't exist. Course in due time she became UK's Minister for Children.
    Timeline: Margaret Hodge row | Society | The Guardian

    We know the history of Labour MP's Harman, Hewitt and Dromey supporting PIE.

    Then again the media is delighted to focus on others, completely and utterly ignoring the Jimmy Saville / Rolf Harris / Jonathan King and many other celebs who were aided and abetted by media organisations in covering up child abuse.

    Having had a search of all the councils listed they came back with one common fact................... ALL were historically or currently are run by UK Labour Party.

    UK Labour grandees with their "Nanny" state agenda, somehow think they are the better arbitrator of peoples rights than the individual, is that really a surprise that political dogma was used as a means of allowing child abuse on an industrial scale and covering it up.
    Could the OP provide examples of such claims as I have highlighted in his OP above. It takes an interesting sort of person to actively attempt to use the revelations of abuse in one sphere to try to downplay such abuse in another sphere.

    In both the cases of the UK political establishment and the Catholic Church in Ireland there have been attempts at covering up child abuse on an unknown scale.

    Neither one excuses the other. Both attempts at cover-up are borne out of an abuse of power that neither institutions should have been allowed.

    And while we are on about the UK 'Labour Party' if the UK Conservatives knew about abuses by the so-called left why did they remain silent?

    One would have thought that in political dogfighting the likes of which went on in the 1970s either side of that apparent divide would have been only too delighted to reveal such abuses about the other side. The truth is of course that the political establishment like the catholic church in Ireland decided that it needed to preserve notions about itself and lock the truth away in a cupboard and fight to keep the cupboard door closed.

    The political establishment will stoop to any low level to preserve its notions of itself and so did the catholic church in Ireland. Two houses both alike in indignity.

    And neither one can expect succour from the travails of the other in this regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Global Justice View Post
    The 'UK' hold probably the most heinous record of sex crimes known to humanity.
    I am off to work. I can't handle this much stupid so early in the morning.
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    The late Peter Righton was the man who featured in Tom Watson MP's original question to Cameron re high level sex abuse linked to Westminster.

    Now theres an allegation Righton committed murder.


    Paedophile linchpin Peter Righton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth.ie View Post
    The level of paedophilia amongst Catholic Priests was around the same level as the general public, but they have been trounced by liberals and the media for the last 10 years (despite 98% being not guilt of any crimes).
    What happened in these Labour constituencies, given the amount of (reported) victims in such a shorter space of time is a lot worse.
    New Labour and the liberal left are the most shallow, contemptible dregs of society and hopefully 2015 will see the nail in their coffin.
    People need to go to jail over this
    Ed Miliband is slight favourite to win the UK general election.

    It's well known that the most common sort of sexual abuse occurs within the home.

    What do the liberal English media have to say about the latest sexual abuse scandals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by devoutcapitalist View Post
    Ed Miliband is slight favourite to win the UK general election.

    It's well known that the most common sort of sexual abuse occurs within the home.

    What do the liberal English media have to say about the latest sexual abuse scandals?
    Nothing of course, to write about it might incite discussion and the culprits to be held accountable.

    They can't have that - discussion that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire1976 View Post
    They can't have that - discussion that is.
    Of course, that's why the subject is all over the media - because it's being ignored
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    There was a lot of strange ideology doing the rounds in the 60s and 70s among the far left about the need to break down bourgeois sexual morality, up to and including condoning the sexualization of children. It was actually quite a big deal in Germany an other countries, and, with what we now know about Labour and the PIE, it seems to have existed on some level in England. This is not to be confused with more traditional sources of perversion to be found in the Army, orphanages public schools and, various Churches. Right wing kiddie-fiddling always knew it was a sick thing, but it seems that in the pervasive spirit of Cultural Marxism of the times, some on the Left were prepared to come out and say that kiddie fiddling was a good revolutionary thing that help free people from oppressive bourgeois morality. Just ask a certain prominent member of the European Parliament with a double-barrelled name.

    The Sexual Revolution and Children: How the Left Took Things Too Far - SPIEGEL ONLINE
    It should never be forgotten either that 'High Priestess of Political Correctness' Harriet Harman acted as a lawyer for PIE, The Paedophile Information Exchange in the late 70's and early 80's. How people like that are allowed formulate public policy is both beyond me and slightly terrifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe View Post
    BBC News - UK children suffered sex abuse on 'industrial scale'

    Words of UK Prime Minister David Cameron......

    Having listened to the people on here claiming again and again that it really was down to Catholic Church and that aside from Catholic church it was relatively minor this comes as not a surprise.
    Can you quote one person who claimed, again and again, that child abuse in the UK was down to the Catholic Church and that besides them, it was relatively minor?

    One quote? If not, the entire premise of your OP is wrong.
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    Child abuse is one of the most horrible crimes imaginable. Anyone who commits it, and anyone who facilitates them, covers up their actions, hides them, moves them along, or generally helps them out, deserves the full force of the law.

    There really isn't anything more to be said.
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