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    Truth.ie Truth.ie is offline

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    I don't get offended by seeing British people wearing them (they're honouring their
    Army.)
    But seeing Irish people wearing them really irritates me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    RED poppies are worn because when the trenches were dug during both wars their seeds, which were buried in the soil, were brought to the surface.

    They could then germinate following the wars as they were exposed to light.

    Now many former citizens of this country fought very noble causes and gave their lives fighting to protect our way of life from political extremism in Europe during the first half of the last century.

    There is nothing cringeworthy about anyone wearing a poppy.

    British army genocide in Ireland from Tudor times right up to deployment of troops in famine to prevent starving
    accessing food was little better than the extremism you refer to.

    Our duty in 1916 was to throw off an unwanted imperial oppressor. Not to join in a premidated slaughter of young men to defend rotten empires.

    When our state promotes the wearinf of an easter lily I'll consider the idea of wearing a poppy to honour those who fought
    in WW2. Not before.

    And no way wd I wear one to honour men who ended up in the black and tans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milestogo View Post
    He has to...Remember, He is a wanabee hack.
    Would make a good royal correspondent alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    RED poppies are worn because when the trenches were dug during both wars their seeds, which were buried in the soil, were brought to the surface.

    They could then germinate following the wars as they were exposed to light.
    It was only something like eight months after the first world war began that the poem In Flanders Fields was written by a army doctor from Canada, though it was not published until December 1915-

    In Flanders Field, Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Brother View Post

    Our duty in 1916 was to throw off an unwanted imperial oppressor. Not to join in a premeditated slaughter of young men to defend rotten empires.
    There was no military action more predicated on slaughter of young men than 1916- the 'Leaders' knew that they faced annihilation. Pearse is the most reprehensible- offering his younger brother up as a blood sacrifice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    RED poppies are worn because when the trenches were dug during both wars their seeds, which were buried in the soil, were brought to the surface.

    They could then germinate following the wars as they were exposed to light.

    Now many former citizens of this country fought very noble causes and gave their lives fighting to protect our way of life from political extremism in Europe during the first half of the last century.

    There is nothing cringeworthy about anyone wearing a poppy.
    You mean imperialism?
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    already another thread on this
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
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    No.

    The OP was balanced and gave both sides of the equation.
    There is some Nash Equilbria like force in the UK media about poppies at this time of year.
    As you can see financial news free sheet City Am is 1st out of the traps this year:
    City A.M. | London City based Financial, Business and Stock Market News

    The editor, Allister Heath, is a strange Thatcherite cove. That said unlike the Irish Toryboys on here & in government (Vlad), at least he undrstands the importance of protecting the national interest, before worshipping at the altar of Ayn Rand.

    Poppies are important in British society. The reason why there are war memorials in most British towns isn't to excite Kevin "Blurter" Myers (on the odd chance he maybe visiting), its the sheer visceral pain the 2 world wars visited on Britain. Particularly the Great War.

    To the younger XFactor Generation, there maybe a coolness (look who the Brit Legion uses to launch their appeal), there is also the young men who are dying in Britain's latest conflicts.

    Now some Irish don the poppy. They do so for a variety of reasons. These need exploring in the context of our national experience and particularly in the drive for self determination after WW1.
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    The Compulsory Wearing of Poppies by sections of the English establishment is there business ,not my cup of tea so to speak but when our Egits start this crack as well it is nothing short of embarrassing .
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    Ah feck. Won't be long 'till Christmas so. Must check the oil tank too.
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