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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_bob View Post
    spot on , always amazes me the number of irish people who think scots have an affinity with us , scots have a close bond with unionists in northern ireland and thats it , nowhere will you experience anti irish bigotry like in scotland
    Ara, what could be more Irish than sectarian bigotry? We have such close ties that our societal divisions are echoed there, or vice versa, depending on how you look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Science Ninja View Post
    Ara, what could be more Irish than sectarian bigotry? We have such close ties that our societal divisions are echoed there, or vice versa, depending on how you look at it.
    sectarian bigotry is a scots presbyterian creation on this island , bar celtic supporters and those of irish ancestry , most scots dont like us at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_bob View Post
    sectarian bigotry is a scots presbyterian creation on this island , bar celtic supporters and those of irish ancestry , most scots dont like us at all
    Ah sure aren't they entitled to not like us!

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    AS a Glaswegian of Irish descent now living in Ireland I will throw in my tuppence worth.

    1) Fianna Fail already exists in Scotland . It's called the Labour Party.
    2) Anti Irish sentiment exists, but not as bad as it was. But still worse than anybody's experience in England. It was one of the reasons I chose to bring my children here
    3) Alex Salmond was forever using the Irish example as one Scotland should follow, without the guns I hasten to add. Strangely enough he seems to have dropped this in his speeches in recent times.
    4) I think when push comes to shove the Scots are unionists and the union will be safe.

    I am enjoying the discussion particularly the suggestion to put Fianna Fail in the Rangers end at Ibrox during a Glasgow derby match. I would only be in favour of this if they dressed in full paddies day attire, leprauchan suit et al.
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    They can't say they haven't been warned!

    Ireland's travails a salutary tale for breakaway Scots

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    Quote Originally Posted by harshreality View Post
    Ah sure aren't they entitled to not like us!
    they are but lets dispense with the myth that thier is some special relationship between ireland and scotland

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    Quote Originally Posted by roscotom View Post
    AS a Glaswegian of Irish descent now living in Ireland I will throw in my tuppence worth.

    1) Fianna Fail already exists in Scotland . It's called the Labour Party.
    2) Anti Irish sentiment exists, but not as bad as it was. But still worse than anybody's experience in England. It was one of the reasons I chose to bring my children here
    3) Alex Salmond was forever using the Irish example as one Scotland should follow, without the guns I hasten to add. Strangely enough he seems to have dropped this in his speeches in recent times.
    4) I think when push comes to shove the Scots are unionists and the union will be safe.

    I am enjoying the discussion particularly the suggestion to put Fianna Fail in the Rangers end at Ibrox during a Glasgow derby match. I would only be in favour of this if they dressed in full paddies day attire, leprauchan suit et al.
    would you agree that the vast majority of catholics in scotland will vote against independance , they feel more secure as a minority in the broader uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_bob View Post
    they are but lets dispense with the myth that thier is some special relationship between ireland and scotland
    I agree, there is none really except for the one that exists between people of Irish heritage and ourselves. But I dont think we are as hated over there as we used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_bob View Post
    would you agree that the vast majority of catholics in scotland will vote against independance , they feel more secure as a minority in the broader uk
    That's a tough call. Historically, the SNP were seen as a protestant party, but that has changed dramatically over the past decade. There was a real fear that an independent Scotland under the monarchy could become another Stormont. I'm not sure too many catholics hold that view now, but would agree with you that the catholic vote will support the union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schomberg View Post
    What does this mean for the ROI and our vulnerable economy? .
    Someone using a union flag avatar and saying our can't really be taken seriously. For the record I think it hastens the re-integration of the wee 6.
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