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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoose
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger
    1. Semantics. Wriggling after being caught.
    2. Transaction 54 that day was the exchange. Transaction 55 was the lodgment.
    3. There is a D/T account. It was opened in 1991.
    1. So denying he ever said something which he didn’t say is semantics?
    2. You’ve got the transaction numbers the wrong way around.
    3. You’re wrong, read the transcript. The name on the account was the Tim Collins & Des Richardson account, not D/T.
    Q. 603 The account is called D/T?
    A. That is written on it.
    Q. 604 Yeah. Can you explain what that means, Mr. Collins?
    A. Well I may not have filled that in. I signed it. The D/T obviously means Des Richardson and Tim Collins.
    Q. 605 So you take the first letter of the Christian name of each of the beneficial owners of the account and you apply that with the hyphen between the two to identify the account?
    A. Yeah.
    Q 597 (O’Neill)
    Right, and the account title is Mr. Tim Collins and Mr. Des Richardson.
    A. (Collins)
    That’s right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by greengoose
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger
    1. Semantics. Wriggling after being caught.
    2. Transaction 54 that day was the exchange. Transaction 55 was the lodgment.
    3. There is a D/T account. It was opened in 1991.
    1. So denying he ever said something which he didn’t say is semantics?
    2. You’ve got the transaction numbers the wrong way around.
    3. You’re wrong, read the transcript. The name on the account was the Tim Collins & Des Richardson account, not D/T.
    Q. 603 The account is called D/T?
    A. That is written on it.
    Q. 604 Yeah. Can you explain what that means, Mr. Collins?
    A. Well I may not have filled that in. I signed it. The D/T obviously means Des Richardson and Tim Collins.
    Q. 605 So you take the first letter of the Christian name of each of the beneficial owners of the account and you apply that with the hyphen between the two to identify the account?
    A. Yeah.
    Q 597 (O’Neill)
    Right, and the account title is Mr. Tim Collins and Mr. Des Richardson.
    A. (Collins)
    That’s right.
    "Q. 603 The account is called D/T?
    A. That is written on it.
    Q. 604 Yeah. Can you explain what that means, Mr. Collins?
    A. Well I may not have filled that in. I signed it. The D/T obviously means Des Richardson and Tim Collins.
    Q. 605 So you take the first letter of the Christian name of each of the beneficial owners of the account and you apply that with the hyphen between the two to identify the account?
    A. Yeah.
    Q. 606 It's Des and Tim, is that right?
    A. Des Richardson and Tim Collins. "

    And you're admitting Collins said the monies were from a golf classic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger
    1. Semantics. Wriggling after being caught.
    2. Transaction 54 that day was the exchange. Transaction 55 was the lodgment.
    3. There is a D/T account. It was opened in 1991.
    1. So denying he ever said something which he didn’t say is semantics?
    2. You’ve got the transaction numbers the wrong way around.
    3. You’re wrong, read the transcript. The name on the account was the Tim Collins & Des Richardson account, not D/T.
    Tonys - I hope you are well paid for this stuff because not even a child of 7 would try to get away with this stuff.

    1. Wrong. As quoted above he says "My view is that it would be a golf classic" in response to Q.307 .
    2. You are correct about the transaction numbers, but just how many FX coincidences can you explain away. You should just be happy it wasn't dollars.
    3. Again you are technically correct, but you also know from the transcripts that there are 46 out of 151 withdrawl transactions where D/T is used as the name of the account.

    Not even 13 days of p.ie blackout can save you from the lies of the Drumcondra kleptocracy.
    1. Collins said it was a golf classic, he DID NOT say it was a constituency golf classic.
    2.
    3. Would that mean that on 105 transactions of 151 it was referred to as not the D/T account?
    Isn’t it amazing how many times I am technically correct, but still wrong, somehow?

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    What is the big surprise in all this? The Taoiseach, Bertie, freely admitted signing blank cheques for his mentor Charlie (a right Charlie) Haughey. He claimed also to have been educated at UCD and LSE, two institutions of some standing. He may have attended a lecture at both, or more than one, but that's about the extent of his education from either institution. He is a right chancer and oaths don't mean much to some chancers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by greengoose
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger
    1. Semantics. Wriggling after being caught.
    2. Transaction 54 that day was the exchange. Transaction 55 was the lodgment.
    3. There is a D/T account. It was opened in 1991.
    1. So denying he ever said something which he didn’t say is semantics?
    2. You’ve got the transaction numbers the wrong way around.
    3. You’re wrong, read the transcript. The name on the account was the Tim Collins & Des Richardson account, not D/T.
    Q. 603 The account is called D/T?
    A. That is written on it.
    Q. 604 Yeah. Can you explain what that means, Mr. Collins?
    A. Well I may not have filled that in. I signed it. The D/T obviously means Des Richardson and Tim Collins.
    Q. 605 So you take the first letter of the Christian name of each of the beneficial owners of the account and you apply that with the hyphen between the two to identify the account?
    A. Yeah.
    Q 597 (O’Neill)
    Right, and the account title is Mr. Tim Collins and Mr. Des Richardson.
    A. (Collins)
    That’s right.
    So we can then establish the D/T and Mr. Tim Collins and Mr. Des Richardson are the same account and that you are obtusely playing with words like a brat in the schoolyard. Will you ever grow up and get some sense?

    Normally we should not be shooting the messenger but this messenger is corrupting the messages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoose
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by greengoose
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger
    1. Semantics. Wriggling after being caught.
    2. Transaction 54 that day was the exchange. Transaction 55 was the lodgment.
    3. There is a D/T account. It was opened in 1991.
    1. So denying he ever said something which he didn’t say is semantics?
    2. You’ve got the transaction numbers the wrong way around.
    3. You’re wrong, read the transcript. The name on the account was the Tim Collins & Des Richardson account, not D/T.
    Q. 603 The account is called D/T?
    A. That is written on it.
    Q. 604 Yeah. Can you explain what that means, Mr. Collins?
    A. Well I may not have filled that in. I signed it. The D/T obviously means Des Richardson and Tim Collins.
    Q. 605 So you take the first letter of the Christian name of each of the beneficial owners of the account and you apply that with the hyphen between the two to identify the account?
    A. Yeah.
    Q 597 (O’Neill)
    Right, and the account title is Mr. Tim Collins and Mr. Des Richardson.
    A. (Collins)
    That’s right.
    So we can then establish the D/T and Mr. Tim Collins and Mr. Des Richardson are the same account and that you are obtusely playing with words like a brat in the schoolyard. Will you ever grow up and get some sense?

    Normally we should not be shooting the messenger but this messenger is corrupting the messages.
    There either is a bank account named D/T as TA says (ala B/T) or there isn’t, as I said.
    I think we can all agree that no matter how much you’d like there to be a D/T bank account, there simply isn’t a bank account titled D/T nor has there ever been a bank account titled D/T.
    You were left with the impression you were meant to be left with, but nonetheless there is no D/T bank account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger
    1. Semantics. Wriggling after being caught.
    2. Transaction 54 that day was the exchange. Transaction 55 was the lodgment.
    3. There is a D/T account. It was opened in 1991.
    1. So denying he ever said something which he didn’t say is semantics?
    2. You’ve got the transaction numbers the wrong way around.
    3. You’re wrong, read the transcript. The name on the account was the Tim Collins & Des Richardson account, not D/T.
    Tonys - I hope you are well paid for this stuff because not even a child of 7 would try to get away with this stuff.

    1. Wrong. As quoted above he says "My view is that it would be a golf classic" in response to Q.307 .
    2. You are correct about the transaction numbers, but just how many FX coincidences can you explain away. You should just be happy it wasn't dollars.
    3. Again you are technically correct, but you also know from the transcripts that there are 46 out of 151 withdrawl transactions where D/T is used as the name of the account.

    Not even 13 days of p.ie blackout can save you from the lies of the Drumcondra kleptocracy.
    1. Collins said it was a golf classic, he DID NOT say it was a constituency golf classic.
    2.
    3. Would that mean that on 105 transactions of 151 it was referred to as not the D/T account?
    Isn’t it amazing how many times I am technically correct, but still wrong, somehow?
    Maybe you just can't see the wood for the trees.
    The point is not the name of the account but the meaning of D/T and B/T.
    So lets just keep it simple.
    D/T = Des and Tim.
    Therefore B/T = Bertie and Tim.

    Now even you can see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger
    1. Semantics. Wriggling after being caught.
    2. Transaction 54 that day was the exchange. Transaction 55 was the lodgment.
    3. There is a D/T account. It was opened in 1991.
    1. So denying he ever said something which he didn’t say is semantics?
    2. You’ve got the transaction numbers the wrong way around.
    3. You’re wrong, read the transcript. The name on the account was the Tim Collins & Des Richardson account, not D/T.
    Tonys - I hope you are well paid for this stuff because not even a child of 7 would try to get away with this stuff.

    1. Wrong. As quoted above he says "My view is that it would be a golf classic" in response to Q.307 .
    2. You are correct about the transaction numbers, but just how many FX coincidences can you explain away. You should just be happy it wasn't dollars.
    3. Again you are technically correct, but you also know from the transcripts that there are 46 out of 151 withdrawl transactions where D/T is used as the name of the account.

    Not even 13 days of p.ie blackout can save you from the lies of the Drumcondra kleptocracy.
    1. Collins said it was a golf classic, he DID NOT say it was a constituency golf classic.
    2.
    3. Would that mean that on 105 transactions of 151 it was referred to as not the D/T account?
    Isn’t it amazing how many times I am technically correct, but still wrong, somehow?
    Maybe you just can't see the wood for the trees.
    The point is not the name of the account but the meaning of D/T and B/T.
    So lets just keep it simple.
    D/T = Des and Tim.
    Therefore B/T = Bertie and Tim.

    Now even you can see that.
    And thus, they lied. On oath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth
    Quote Originally Posted by tonys
    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger
    1. Semantics. Wriggling after being caught.
    2. Transaction 54 that day was the exchange. Transaction 55 was the lodgment.
    3. There is a D/T account. It was opened in 1991.
    1. So denying he ever said something which he didn’t say is semantics?
    2. You’ve got the transaction numbers the wrong way around.
    3. You’re wrong, read the transcript. The name on the account was the Tim Collins & Des Richardson account, not D/T.
    Tonys - I hope you are well paid for this stuff because not even a child of 7 would try to get away with this stuff.

    1. Wrong. As quoted above he says "My view is that it would be a golf classic" in response to Q.307 .
    2. You are correct about the transaction numbers, but just how many FX coincidences can you explain away. You should just be happy it wasn't dollars.
    3. Again you are technically correct, but you also know from the transcripts that there are 46 out of 151 withdrawl transactions where D/T is used as the name of the account.

    Not even 13 days of p.ie blackout can save you from the lies of the Drumcondra kleptocracy.
    1. Collins said it was a golf classic, he DID NOT say it was a constituency golf classic.
    2.
    3. Would that mean that on 105 transactions of 151 it was referred to as not the D/T account?
    Isn’t it amazing how many times I am technically correct, but still wrong, somehow?
    Maybe you just can't see the wood for the trees.
    The point is not the name of the account but the meaning of D/T and B/T.
    So lets just keep it simple.
    D/T = Des and Tim.
    Therefore B/T = Bertie and Tim.

    Now even you can see that.
    I can only point out that you’re barking up the wrong tree, I can’t stop you barking.
    Your capacity for talking yourself into nonexistent evidence seems endless.

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