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    How many 'Dig-outs' has bertie been involved with now?

    Its hard to keep track, but so far I count (correct me if i'm wrong)

    1. the manchester dinner, payment for speaking (in a personal capacity)
    2. The manchester 'loans' from his bestest best friends
    3. Michael Wall's payment to 'refurbish the house'
    4. IR£5000 from his brother
    5. between IR£5000 and IR£7000 from his mother
    6. The 'political donation for personal purposes'
    7. the 'dig out' to buy a house for his girlfriend

    did i miss any?
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    here is the full list: dates and all

    30 December 1993 B. Ahern lodges IR£22,500: of which IR£15,000 cash, IR£5,000 from Padraic O'Connor of NCB and IR£2,500 from Des Richardson
    25 April 1994 B Ahern lodges IR£30,000, of which IR£27,164.44 to special savings account and IR£2,835.26 to current account
    8 August 1994 B Ahern lodges IR£20,000 to account in names of daughters
    11 October 1994 FX BA lodges IR£24,838.49 to deposit account (equates to £25,000 stg)
    5 December 1994 IR£50,000 (in two amounts-28,000 and 22,000) transferred from B. Ahern's account to C Larkin account (CL1)
    5 December 1994 FX IR£28,772.90 lodged to C Larkin account (CL2)
    (equates to $45,000)
    19 January 2005 IR£50,000 transferred from C Larkin deposit account to cash save account
    27 January 1995 IR£50,000 withdrawn from C Larkin Deposit Account and given to BA
    15 May 1995 IR£8,442 withdrawn from CL2
    19 June 1995 IR£20,050.91 withdrawn from CL2 for work on House
    22 June 1995 FX IR£9,684.71 balance from CL2 used to open a new Larkin account - CL3
    Also lodged to this account on this day was IR£11,743.74, comprising IR£2,000 and £10,000 stg (£IR 9742.74)
    24 July 1995 IR£9,655 lodged into CL3 account
    1 December 1995 FX IR£19,142.92 lodged to B. Ahern's deposit account (equates to £20,000 stg)

    New A/Cs Feb '08
    IPBS a/c £38,000
    BT a/c £52,000


    In total the whole lot equates to 500,000 Euros in todays money, and hardly any of it has a credible explanations.
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    thanks for clearing that up.

    I really wish some radio interviewer would go through that list, detail by detail in front of a FF junior minister (seeing as ahern and the senior cabinet are all avoiding the media), and then ask him/her if they have no doubts at all about ahern's finances.


    (of course they would slime out of it by saying 'its not my place to judge, that's a job for mahon...'
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    Just to let you know that i have contacted every FF TD/MEP and Senator and asked them as to whether they can explain any of this.
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    Pfkf1...of course they can't explain it to you. I have a better understanding of sub-atomic physics than they have of honesty. They will relish giving you the two fingers.

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    Could a moderator make this a sticky at the top of the Tribunal forum please? It's sorta important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician
    Pfkf1...of course they can't explain it to you. I have a better understanding of sub-atomic physics than they have of honesty. They will relish giving you the two fingers.
    I know they will, but now none of them can claim this issue hasn't been raised with them.
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    Re: How many 'Dig-outs' has bertie been involved with now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia
    Its hard to keep track, but so far I count (correct me if i'm wrong)

    1. the manchester dinner, payment for speaking (in a personal capacity)
    2. The manchester 'loans' from his bestest best friends
    3. Michael Wall's payment to 'refurbish the house'
    4. IR£5000 from his brother
    5. between IR£5000 and IR£7000 from his mother
    6. The 'political donation for personal purposes'
    7. the 'dig out' to buy a house for his girlfriend

    did i miss any?
    St Lukes Trust is essentially a private fund under his control
    Thats another Dig out worth 2 million Walsh and Mauuire are building a huge apartment block a few doors down St Lukes has huge redevelopment potential

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    I will also say that I will put up all communications with FF TDs/MEP/ and Senators regarding this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfkf1
    here is the full list: dates and all

    30 December 1993 B. Ahern lodges IR£22,500: of which IR£15,000 cash, IR£5,000 from Padraic O'Connor of NCB and IR£2,500 from Des Richardson
    25 April 1994 B Ahern lodges IR£30,000, of which IR£27,164.44 to special savings account and IR£2,835.26 to current account
    8 August 1994 B Ahern lodges IR£20,000 to account in names of daughters
    11 October 1994 FX BA lodges IR£24,838.49 to deposit account (equates to £25,000 stg)
    5 December 1994 IR£50,000 (in two amounts-28,000 and 22,000) transferred from B. Ahern's account to C Larkin account (CL1)
    5 December 1994 FX IR£28,772.90 lodged to C Larkin account (CL2)
    (equates to $45,000)
    19 January 2005 IR£50,000 transferred from C Larkin deposit account to cash save account
    27 January 1995 IR£50,000 withdrawn from C Larkin Deposit Account and given to BA
    15 May 1995 IR£8,442 withdrawn from CL2
    19 June 1995 IR£20,050.91 withdrawn from CL2 for work on House
    22 June 1995 FX IR£9,684.71 balance from CL2 used to open a new Larkin account - CL3
    Also lodged to this account on this day was IR£11,743.74, comprising IR£2,000 and £10,000 stg (£IR 9742.74)
    24 July 1995 IR£9,655 lodged into CL3 account
    1 December 1995 FX IR£19,142.92 lodged to B. Ahern's deposit account (equates to £20,000 stg)

    New A/Cs Feb '08
    IPBS a/c £38,000
    BT a/c £52,000


    In total the whole lot equates to 500,000 Euros in todays money, and hardly any of it has a credible explanations.
    Would it be of any use to add information to this file showing how each payment or account was discovered by the Tribunal? The B/T account for example was discovered because the Tribunal followed a cheque made out to Ahern from Davy Stockbrokers in 1993.

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