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Thread: Future railway lines getting serious consideration.

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    Future railway lines getting serious consideration.

    A project costing up to £3.5bn could connect the Antrim coast to Galloway, 21 miles away in south-west Scotland, according to the Irish News newspaper.

    It would see trains originating in Dublin travelling through Belfast, across the proposed bridge or tunnel, down through Britain and across the English channel.

    Track upgrades would mean trains would be able to reach speeds of almost 200mph.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6956570.stm
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    Or you could just fly direct without going in a big loop.

    Perhaps link to Wales would be more practical - more expensive, but would have a better chance of being used.

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    Getting as much serious consideration as the tunnel across the atlantic.

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    A decent line connecting Derry ( Ireland's 4th largest city) to Dublin through Tyrone, Monaghan and Cavan to link up with the Navan rail line might be a better place to start WRT rail in Northern Ireland.....
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    You can't tunnel the Irish Sea as easily as the English Channel. There are deep trenches about half way across. That's why the Wales route is probably a non-runner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daonphobal
    You can't tunnel the Irish Sea as easily as the English Channel. There are deep trenches about half way across. That's why the Wales route is probably a non-runner.
    There are very deep trenches in the North Channel, the Brits dumped ammunition there for years, and maybe more dangerous stuff. Opposite Wicklow is the shallowest but also the widest and not near a centre of population on the Welsh side so it would be a new railway through the mountains there.
    I’ve heard it said that there is a good chance of a large coal field in this area of the Irish Sea so maybe we could dig a coal mine to Wales and use that, otherwise I think we have far to few people to justify the costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke
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    A decent line connecting Derry ( Ireland's 4th largest city) to Dublin through Tyrone, Monaghan and Cavan to link up with the Navan rail line might be a better place to start WRT rail in Northern Ireland.....
    Well said. Absolutely spot on.
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    I don't see this happening anyime soon, but to rule it for the longerterm future would also be a mistake.
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    And how, pray tell, will the Irish Trains (5' 3" between the wheels) run on the UK railway lines (4' 8.5" between the rails)?

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    This is never going to happen.
    Not now, not longterm, not ever.

    The comparision with the Chinese bridge near Shanghai is assinine.
    The Chinese bridge runs across an estuary with 10 km of mudflats.
    The correct analogy is with the longest suspension bridge in the world which has piers in 110 meters of water.
    This nonsensical idea would require at least 10 of those bridges plaaced end to end at a cost of say €30-40 billion.
    I know this is still the silly season and I can already see the illustrations in the inevitable article in the next Sunday Times but not even Martin Cullen would go for this one.
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