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    Quote Originally Posted by alonso View Post
    So according to you, every single city in the developed world should have done this at the exact same time. Why was London 5 years behind Chicago??? Is that a national disgrace for Britain?
    Not at the exact same time, just a bit sooner than a friggin' generation. 15 years for Christ's sake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelach View Post
    Not at the exact same time, just a bit sooner than a friggin' generation. 15 years for Christ's sake!
    ok, yeh it's a disgrace that we seem to have wasted a decade p1ssing around, fair enough. But the incessant whining since it was launched (much of it ill-informed) and particularly the wholly ignorant deification of the Oyster card is ridiculous and tiresome. Forget the 10 years doing nothing - i'd be amazed if more than 25% of those who first managed this project are anywhere near it now - and concentrate on lobbying the DoT and Minister to expedite the full roll-out of all ticket options on Leap and integrated fares.
    We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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    these flags are up and down the Liffey. Could the flag money not have gone towards making the card viable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll_On View Post
    these flags are up and down the Liffey. Could the flag money not have gone towards making the card viable?
    Probably paid by DCC, they put all sorts of rubbish flags on those poles.

    It seems what we really have is an integrated (prepaid) transport debit card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonica View Post
    Probably paid by DCC, they put all sorts of rubbish flags on those poles.

    It seems what we really have is an integrated (prepaid) transport debit card.
    It seems what we have is a single (prepaid) transport debit card that can be used on Dart, Luas and Dublin Bus.
    I wouldn't call that 'integrated.'

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    The more I experience Dublin Bus and their attitude to the Leap card, the more I wonder are they determined to destroy it or at least exempt themselves from it. There are a number of evident obstructions that you face when using the Leap Card on Dublin Bus:

    1. The need to tell the driver where you're going - a total joke.

    2. The fact that the card is not multi-journey. Dublin Bus"s own magnetic paper tickets can be read by all Dublin Bus machines but for some reason Dublin Bus will not program their machines to do likewise for the Leap Card. (It's all blarney that it"s a long process - a half-day's work for a decent programmer). This is a glaring omission - for example to travel from Tallaght to Swords, you get two buses. Using a Travel 90 card, it will cost you €2.15. But using the Leap Card it will cost you €4.80 (two journeys at Dublin Bus's "concession" fare of 2.40 for the Leap Card - a whopping 123% extra for the privilege of using the Leap Card.

    3. The real tell-tale however that must lead me to question Dublin Bus's attitude to the Leap Card is the maximum "concession" fare of €2.40 on the Leap card. This is the maximum fare that you pay using the Leap Card on Dublin Bus. Yet, the maximum fare using Dublin Bus's Travel 90 ticket is €2.15. There is absolutely no reason that Dublin Bus could not reduce the maximum Leap Card fare to €2.15 to match its own Travel 90 ticket. It would take 30 seconds to re-programme their computers. But they refuse to do this.

    Surely, the Minister and civil servants should raise this question with Dublin Bus and at least insist on this one basic and simple change. The attitude of Dublin Bus appears completely obstructionist.
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    There should be an enquiry into why public money was wasted installing two ticket readers on every Dublin Bus. Surely such wanton wastage of public money should be illegal, why has nobody got the sack over this?

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    To the 2 previous posters - I think you've not only highlighted a flaw with Dublin Bus but also may have shed light on why it took over 10 years for this to happen
    We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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