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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Hotel prices have rarely been lower. Restaurants are now beetter value than before (a bit to go, I realise) so the only thing we can really do is reduce the cost in getting people here and/or getting them around the country once they arroive.
    Its more complicated then that, plenty of Irish people wouldnt holiday here because you can end up bleeding money and have very little to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagman View Post
    How about from Dublin to Holyhead or Rosslare Fishguard?

    Build some islands and use a combination of bridges and tunnels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Hotel prices have rarely been lower. Restaurants are now beetter value than before (a bit to go, I realise) so the only thing we can really do is reduce the cost in getting people here and/or getting them around the country once they arroive.
    The price of eating/drinking out is simply too high here and we will never get repeat business from smokers for obvious reasons.

    Basically saying that all we have left to tackle is the cost of getting here is way off the mark if you ant to boost tourism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Far too big a span.
    Yeah, that's stretching it, pardon the pun. One could be done that covers the Scotland to NI ferry routes from even closer points across. The British government would obviously be behind that, but the ROI would have interests there too IMO for tourists and business using that avenue.

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    Cheap flights by Ryanair and other short commuter flights IMO made the Cork-Swansea ferry impractical for many tourists who, given the much improved road system, can now just do the ferries to the east coast and drive west. In fact, that's what many flights are doing from larger international destinations such as the US. Even though Shannon is by far the easiest destination for me to visit my family, I usually now land in Dublin because that's the direct flight available at a cheaper cost, rent a car and drive west. Plus, the government is trying to render other airports to only regional status. IMO, that's where a mistake occurs. In the summertime, tourists generally wish to go west, so that's where those airports ought to be given priority.

    Where Cork gets really hurt IMO is the road access. The M8 motorway gives good access from Dublin to Cork, but tourists in the summer and other times usually like exploring the western side of Ireland for its scenery, culture, etc. Cork ought to be a big city destination as part of that touring, but it's made burdensome by the old N20 route from Limerick to Cork sans motorway and other than a mediocre N22 it's an endless pattern of slow, bumpy and side winding R roads and boreens out of westerly points where the heavy tourist action goes. That gives it the 'too out of the way/too hard to reach' conclusion for tourists. Given the size of Cork and its location, that's totally unacceptable IMO. Getting its road access up to scratch would also create jobs with the infrastructural improvements that lead to making Cork a more vibrant place for touring and other business purposes.
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    Does this mean it'll be called De Ship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boggle View Post
    The price of eating/drinking out is simply too high here and we will never get repeat business from smokers for obvious reasons.

    Basically saying that all we have left to tackle is the cost of getting here is way off the mark if you ant to boost tourism.
    The price of cigarettes is absolutely prohibitive in Ireland. In fact, that's what I fetch bringing cigarettes in at duty free for family members. The price of drink is also out of control as well as the poor selection of spirits. There's even a lazy approach to making the kinds of wild cocktails one can get in the US, Canada, Oz and elsewhere. Try having them ask for a simple one like a 'Sea Breeze' or 'Bay Breeze' that women like from such nations when socialising at night....it's just not done. (It's vodka and cranberry with grapefruit or pineapple respectively).

    Renting a car is also an issue given the amount of skulduggery at rental agencies for which Ireland is infamous, e.g., 'bait and switch' advertising on both prices and car availability, unnecessary charges, peak time price gouging, charging cards for preexisting damage and ordinary 'wear and tear' on vehicles, etc. Many credit card companies even exclude Ireland from general rental car insurance coverage as a benefit of the card. I recall one telling me that they'll cover pretty much any country outside a Third World formal war zone except Ireland and Israel, the latter because of the bombing risks and the former because of the fraud. That industry can really sour victims's opinions who tour who conclude understandably but often unfairly that Ireland is a poor holiday experience and/or that the Irish are shady characters. The government has to clean that industry up with proper enforcement for conduct with incentives for enjoyable and affordable driving experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Agreed, this is a blow to the entire south and west.

    We need to channel our energy into promoting the west coast and the midlands.
    The midlands? Are you crazy?
    Places like Laois and Offaly, and Tipp? And Longford? Even Roscommon? Westmeath?
    Why on earth would you send a tourist to any of these places for more than a couple of hours?
    No offence is meant, but they really offer nothing to the average, the typical tourist.

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    i think one of the problems for the swansea cork route is the duration of the journey due to tidal issues,i think it takes 9 or 10 hrs,
    you can drive from cork to rosslare in just over 2 hours and then cross over to wales in less than 2/12 hours on the fast ferry,
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