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    Iusedmename Iusedmename is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedogs View Post
    1 thing i notice on this thread is that its not the drivers thats disrespectin other posters and lashin out the abuse....
    Possibly because cyclists know it's their legs at stake.

    As a cyclist, what leaves me gobsmacked is seeing that last video's maker doing the same stupid thing three times on the same junction.

    If you don't have the stamina to stop and start your bike regularly, you shouldn't be cycling on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nakatomi View Post
    Why did the car try to overtake when clearly it was not safe to do so?
    cause hes a ************************.... doesnt make any difference to the cyclist though if he was killed.... you never said why he didnt stop even when it was dangerous to stay goin....
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    Except when you watch the video, he repeatedly proves that his action is not compatible with the very rules he was consulting and thus because he did not like it, he went against it.

    There is nothing causing drivers to act carelessly except for the driver themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    The blind-spot argument has been nonsense for at least two decades.
    The blind spot is very real. There is only so much an operator can do. The people around the machine need to play their part too.

    Not least because they are the ones who will end up injured.

    Bigger tractors and blind spots cause more farm accidents and deaths 21 May 2017 Free
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    Quote Originally Posted by riven View Post
    Except when you watch the video, he repeatedly proves that his action is not compatible with the very rules he was consulting and thus because he did not like it, he went against it.
    From the Irish Rules Of The Road. P189

    In the company of one or more cyclists, you MUSTt have due regard to other
    users of the road, and you MUST take full account of prevailing road conditions.
    On occasion, it may be safe to cycle two abreast, but you MUST NOT cycle in a
    manner likely to create an obstruction for other road users.



    There is nothing causing drivers to act carelessly except for the driver themselves.
    Applies to cyclists as well.



    Curiously, the ROTR has the following to say to Motorcyclists on page 184.

    I would have thought that most of this also applies to pedal cyclists, maybe even moreso.

    Tactics for surviving as a motorcyclist
    1. Watch your surroundings. This means watching:
    • into the far, middle and near distance; and
    • behind you, using your mirrors and checking over your shoulders, before
    changing position or turning.
    2. Keep your distance. Use the ‘two second rule’ (see Section 8). In wet or icy
    conditions, always leave a bigger gap.
    3. Be seen. Make sure your position is correct. Use dipped headlights and wear
    high visibility clothing (such as a neon vest and ‘Sam Browne’ reflective belt).
    4. Do not surprise others. Never do anything on the road that could cause
    another road user to slow down, brake or swerve or that could startle
    pedestrians.
    5. Think like other road users. Anticipate how other road users might react.
    6. Read the road. In other words, ride to current road, weather and traffic
    conditions.
    7. Adopt the right speed for the conditions. Never let others dictate your pace.
    8. Never ride your bike after consuming alcohol or drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riven View Post
    Except when you watch the video, he repeatedly proves that his action is not compatible with the very rules he was consulting and thus because he did not like it, he went against it.

    There is nothing causing drivers to act carelessly except for the driver themselves.
    A car driver of motorcyclist is required to "make good progress". That means not travel so slowly that you impede traffic that would otherwise wish to travel within the prevailing speed limit.



    My knowledge of the rules of the road are that any road user is required to follow the same rules. A cyclist failing to make good progress by riding two abreast to impede other road users would be breaking those road rules.




    F˙cking cyclists believe they have a special, blank, rulebook. They take out a pencil and then just write down whatever they want. In pencil so the can rub it out again, if they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck View Post
    A car driver of motorcyclist is required to "make good progress". That means not travel so slowly that you impede traffic that would otherwise wish to travel within the prevailing speed limit.



    My knowledge of the rules of the road are that any road user is required to follow the same rules. A cyclist failing to make good progress by riding two abreast to impede other road users would be breaking those road rules.




    F˙cking cyclists believe they have a special, blank, rulebook. They take out a pencil and then just write down whatever they want. In pencil so the can rub it out again, if they want.
    The making good progress is relative to the vehicle you are riding unless you advocate a meaningless rule. After all good progress for a tractor and a car are completely different. The policeman checked the book in several places and could not find any rules that the cyclists broke. Hell he could not find the "good progress" you state etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by riven View Post
    The making good progress is relative to the vehicle you are riding unless you advocate a meaningless rule. After all good progress for a tractor and a car are completely different. The policeman checked the book in several places and could not find any rules that the cyclists broke. Hell he could not find the "good progress" you state etc
    Don't be disingenuous. The point is they were deliberately riding abreast to impede others.


    Fine them.
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