Originally Posted by myksav

Your ability to see connections where none really exist is amazing.

I do like your concepts of bad driving falling into "wayward driving" and "behaving in a flippant manner". Nothing too serious, loike.



Better get yourself over to Politics.dk then and start screaming at the Danes, Copenhagen is full of youngesters cycling in central metropolitan areas! Same for the Dutch, so off to P.nl with you as well.

Downtown Copenhagen and downtown Dublin ever so slightly different

Originally Posted by baldur0300

Not because the driver doesn't have identification.

Probably not, but I think they can impound them if the drivers don't have the paperwork with them and they are suspicious re ownership etc. Think it's more common if insurance documentation not being carried.

Originally Posted by anationoceagain

I suggested a while back that those already contributing would not fork out again..owners of car licences could have the necessary bike permit added to their licence and should carry such on their person while cycling. Hence all road users would be in the system and no other cost would occur. No such regulation would be needed for cycling in recreational areas like parks etc. Equally I would suggest it would not be necessary in rural areas where traffic is lighter. The linkage to pedestrians is daft.

When Rural people cycle to the city would they need to get a bike permit?

Would the guards mount road blocks looking for Boggars on Bikes without permits?

It is asinine.

Bikes and bikers in rural areas are as dangerous as in the city

Originally Posted by anationoceagain

Probably not, but I think they can impound them if the drivers don't have the paperwork with them and they are suspicious re ownership etc. Think it's more common if insurance documentation not being carried.

It's not particularly common at all but is mainly used in relation to road tax.

Documentation????

A goodly portion are going around on stolen bikes.....
It's one of the biggest industries in the city centre.

Footpaths, red lights, one way streets, footbridges, pedestrian areas etc etc etc etc

It's chaos, and the baaaasterds can do what they like.

While Green and Labour Councillors canonize them, and look for more bike schemes and cycle lanes.

The same cycle lanes that are regularly ignored ( footpaths preferred, don't you know )

Car drivers seem to have been replaced by cyclists as the 'chosen people' by the political
movers and shakers at present.
It's about time pedestrians were strongly represented in the public arena.....

Originally Posted by anationoceagain

Don't need Tommy's or anyone elses view to realise that cyclists can flout the law far more easier than motorists.

I guess your blinkered view means that you don't see speeding drivers, and phoning/texting/surfing drivers, and drivers who don't know what indicators are for, and drivers who ignore red lights (like the videos I posted), and drivers who don't know what wing mirrors are for all around you. It's just the cyclist sneaking through the red light that you see, and you ignore all the others, as they don't suit your argument.

Originally Posted by anationoceagain

Your other reheated observations in this post do not merit discussion again.

Yes, I'm sure you are quite keen not to call attention to the lack of substance and merit in your proposal. But do feel free to keep those blinkers up and avoid learning anything for yourself.

Originally Posted by Henry Thomas

Documentation????

A goodly portion are going around on stolen bikes.....
It's one of the biggest industries in the city centre.

Footpaths, red lights, one way streets, footbridges, pedestrian areas etc etc etc etc

It's chaos, and the baaaasterds can do what they like.

While Green and Labour Councillors canonize them, and look for more bike schemes and cycle lanes.

The same cycle lanes that are regularly ignored ( footpaths preferred, don't you know )

Car drivers seem to have been replaced by cyclists as the 'chosen people' by the political
movers and shakers at present.
It's about time pedestrians were strongly represented in the public arena.....

Stolen bikes, Baaaasterds, "chosen people", you're a bit of a fantasist I see.

Originally Posted by anationoceagain

What bike tax? The porposal is for all road users to be in the system, carrying a licence. Full motoring licences also authorise use of bikes with engines below a certain cc. It could be assumed to cover bikes as well. Likewise with car insurance policies. Should bike users in busy central urban areas not have such a licence already, they could buy one, solely for a bike, at a modest fee. Insurance with appropriate concerns could be organised by similar people, and would be modest given that bikes will cause less damage than cars.

You just proved my contention that you don't know the RotR. You cannot use a motor vehicle without the relevant licence category. You may not ride any motorcycle of any CC on a car licence. A Category B licence is not a bike licence. To use a motorcycle you must hold a Category A or Category A1 licence.

Go and read the Rules of the Road and stop making a fool of yourself on this topic.

Originally Posted by nakatomi

When Rural people cycle to the city would they need to get a bike permit?

Would the guards mount road blocks looking for Boggars on Bikes without permits?

It is asinine.

If cycling in the city they should procure a permit