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    Catholic Church v Tipperary Venue: Has an all out war for the souls of Ireland begun?

    Lowry and Quike and Co. face off against the Roman Catholic judging by the blistering attack in this week's The Irish Catholic.

    Rory Fitzgerald writes:

    An Bord Pleanála has granted planning permission to build a controversial €460m 'super casino' in Two Mile Borris, Co. Tipperary but what effect will such a massive gambling development have on the local community, and on Irish people?
    A study using data from every US county from 1977 to 1996, found that casinos are associated with increased crime, including aggravated assault, rape, murder, robbery, burglary and car theft.
    Other studies have found that adults living within 50 miles of a casino had twice the normal rate of problem gambling. In 2008, the British government scrapped its plans to build similar super casinos, amid fears of the vast social problems they might cause and doubts about their economic benefits.
    Recent international studies have found that casinos produce the 'most problems' of all forms of gambling, and that ''residential proximity to casinos predicted gambling problems''.
    Business insiders believe that a casino on such a gargantuan scale in a rural location is doomed to financial failure, while An Taisce and others are critical of the decision to award planning.
    The local community is understandably welcoming of the 2,000 jobs the facility may provide once it is operational. However, could the social costs for the region, and for Ireland, prove too great? We know who will benefit, but what about the victims?
    Gambling with our children | The Irish Catholic - Ireland's biggest and best-selling Catholic newspaper since 1888
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    I would imagine that the Catholic Church would have common ground with many secularists and athiests on this issue.
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    Fair play to the Church for taking a stand against a genuine social social evil rather than concentrating on usual nonsense of campaigning against contraception and divorce.

    Forget the Lowry propaganda of this being a family venue. It will be a place for gambling addicts, drunkeness, whores and cocaine. Quirke is hoping US troops from nearby Shannon will go there for some "R & R".

    This place will become a diesased wasteland of depravity while Quirke and Co. ride off into the sunset with bags of cash.
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    It will be a place for gambling addicts, drunkeness, whores and cocaine.
    Don't forget bad language.

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    Im originally from the area and think the casino is going to be a social diaster down there being honest. It may provide jobs, but its going to be at a cost.
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    Let's just be clear: the church hasn't made any official statement regarding this gambling place in Tipp. All this is is a piece in a Catholic newspaper.

    I suspect this thread is yet another church-bashing thread in disguise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellNow View Post
    Let's just be clear: the church hasn't made any official statement regarding this gambling place in Tipp. All this is is a piece in a Catholic newspaper.

    I suspect this thread is yet another church-bashing thread in disguise.
    This is not a church bashing thread at all.

    It is merely making a legitimate observation.

    The Irish Catholic is a mouth piece for the Catholic Church in Ireland. They don't ok every article but you can be pretty sure that the views expressed in the paper reflect Catholic teaching. The paper is anti-divorce, anti-abortion, anti-pre-marital sex, anti-gay marriage, socially conservative etc. as you would expect from a Catholic newspaper.

    David Quinn is the head of The Iona Institute which promotes Catholicism and traditional Catholic family values etc. so obviously he would ok this article.

    Clearly it is part of a Catholic Church campaign against the evils of gambling and the Tipperary Venue is going to become an obvious target.

    So as the momentum gets behind the Tipperary Venue and while the Catholic Church gear up for the Eucharistic Congress next year we are probably going to hear more of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    I would imagine that the Catholic Church would have common ground with many secularists and athiests on this issue.
    Definitely.
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    They raise some important points, imo. Doesn't mean the casino shouldn't be permitted, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    I would imagine that the Catholic Church would have common ground with many secularists and athiests on this issue.
    And you'd be dead right there.
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