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    Adams too stupid to know what is better for Sinn Fein

    He is putting his own selfish participation and ego before the better interests of the party and I mean going down to Wexford and giving a man like John Dywer orders who was upping the vote. The man from West Belfast is too stupid for what Sinn Fein need. As well as that he is disliked and his phoney answers to David Norris on Newstalk two weeks ago were exposed by Liam Clarke in the following week's Sunday Times.

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    Great logical post.

    No link, no substance...feck sake, this is a political debating and information website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weesix View Post
    He is putting his own selfish participation and ego before the better interests of the party and I mean going down to Wexford and giving a man like John Dywer orders who was upping the vote. The man from West Belfast is too stupid for what Sinn Fein need. As well as that he is disliked and his phoney answers to David Norris on Newstalk two weeks ago were exposed by Liam Clarke in the following week's Sunday Times.
    This is amongst the more stupid posts to have appeared on Pie.

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    What Adams is doing IS the best for SF, but in Northern Ireland (where they need to retain link with the IRA or be indistinguisable from the SDLP). It cearly isn't in SF's interests in this country, but th party is too stubborn to do what is necessary and slpit along national lines.
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    Please explain why this is a stupid post and try to put some reasons except you're equally
    a waffler.

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    I don't think Gerry Adams is a stupid man. But I do think his time is up in politics. SF needs to leave its unpleasant members and supporters behind if it wants to grow into its electoral market. And not only is he a visible link to SF's terrorist past but he and others like him at the top of the party seem to see that past, those members and those supporters as things that they need to carry with them - which is just 100% wrong.

    Martin Ferris at the prison gates sums it up for millions of Irish people. They haven't gone away, we know.

    I think a mature discussion about the direction in which SF is to go in the next five or ten years could be very interesting if we could all keep the level of discourse intelligent and courteous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weesix View Post
    Please explain why this is a stupid post and try to put some reasons except you're equally
    a waffler.
    Because Adams is clearly not a stupid man. Vain and egotistical, yes, but not stupid. Longest serving party leader in Europe. Actually, is he the longest serving party leader in the world or does Ghadaffi take that accolade?

    The problem is that if he resigned presidency of SF what role would he have that would satisfy his enormous ego? He adores the limelight and hobnobbing with the great and good of world politics. His comrade-in-arms, Martin McGuinness, (a much more modest man) has carved out a clear role for himself in NI executive and seems more than fulfilled by this.

    The other problem for SF, of course, is that Adams has no obvious successor. Mary Lou would be a disaster and none of the current TDs seems to be leadership material.

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    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phinaeus View Post
    Because Adams is clearly not a stupid man. Vain and egotistical, yes, but not stupid. Longest serving party leader in Europe. Actually, is he the longest serving party leader in the world or does Ghadaffi take that accolade?

    The problem is that if he resigned presidency of SF what role would he have that would satisfy his enormous ego? He adores the limelight and hobnobbing with the great and good of world politics. His comrade-in-arms, Martin McGuinness, (a much more modest man) has carved out a clear role for himself in NI executive and seems more than fulfilled by this.

    The other problem for SF, of course, is that Adams has no obvious successor. Mary Lou would be a disaster and none of the current TDs seems to be leadership material.
    Adams isnt a stupid man, though he is lost when it comes to economics. But to sum up your post, Adams can no longer lead Sinn Fein and there is no-one there capable of taking up the mantle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republican-Socialist View Post
    Adams isnt a stupid man, though he is lost when it comes to economics. But to sum up your post, Adams can no longer lead Sinn Fein and there is no-one there capable of taking up the mantle.
    McGuinness? Unionists seem to work with him tolerably. I'm hoping the SDLP come back off life support some time in the near future to take the nationalist mantle of government, though.
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