No excuses - Dublin Sinn Féin has the chance to show the way forward for Sinn Féin

[Eorna]

I'd hate to see people leaving the party.

I also think that people who are solid, uncompromising left, have a place in Sinn Fein. SF is a left wing party and will hold its ground on the left.

As regards people who are theory led well I disagree with those people because they only focus on theory. Just like the free marketeers and reaganites/thatcherites only focused on the theory that the market solved all problems. Those people focused on theory and ignored reality.

Whether people on the left or the right establish theory as king then its the same result - chaos, removal from reality and finally discrediting.

No of this means people cant be left/right. It just means that they need to know when to realise that they are drifting away into a bookish world of dialectics or competition theory.

I would consider myself left wing economically. I would like Ireland to be similar to Denmark, but for many people that is a cop out, where the robber barons only give you a bigger scrap of meat. I believe that the culture of a nation should be the main culture in that nation. I believe that immigration has to be managed, that an open door policy would be very wrong, even if that has me labelled a fascist. I believe that small farmers or small business people or anyone who believes in God, or is against abortion on demand is not a bad person because of that. Given all that,Sinn Fein especially in Dublin, is not a party that I could feel comfortable as a member in.

[Fr. Fahey]

Problem for SF is that those who claim to be most 'left', eg. Factual and others who are prominent in the internal debate, are actually liberal social democrats who should be in the Labour Party who have diluted SF's radical edge, which is based on community action and which used to have very radical proposals for local decentralised democracy and an economy based on co-operatives and was respectful of peoples tradtions as opposed to miltant pro abortionists and advocates of undermining those communities through mass immigration and urbanisation.

[TurloghÓC]

Problem for SF is that those who claim to be most 'left', eg. Factual and others who are prominent in the internal debate, are actually liberal social democrats who should be in the Labour Party who have diluted SF's radical edge, which is based on community action and which used to have very radical proposals for local decentralised democracy and an economy based on co-operatives and was respectful of peoples tradtions as opposed to miltant pro abortionists and advocates of undermining those communities through mass immigration and urbanisation.

What that Eire Nua ********************?