Originally Posted by popper
Well argued.
Tell me, was it the interpretation of the referendum results you disagreed with, or was it the results of the survey of Irish public opinion on abortion you take issue with (both of which go some way to contradicting your unsupportable comment about the views of the 'Irish people' on this issue)?
You know, as you're into serious discussion and everything.
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Listen, I told you before. When you have something to say that convinces me that you are not a 13 year old Junior Cert student who thinks he is clever I might deign to answer you. You don't.
Yes, we've heard all this before.
The interesting thing, mattt, is that you don't make substantial or convincing arguments yourself. The abortion one on this thread is a case in point. When someone disagrees with you, or points to a flaw in the rather hysterical assertions you make, you seem to take it very personally.
You constantly make arguments that you can't back up (I'm reminded of your one about multiculturalists and FGM) and when this is pointed out to you, you revert to your old tactic of announcing your superiority to everyone else (who are children, or some variation of it).
Now, I've provided you with a link about why your argument about the Irish people's view of abortion is, at the very least, highly questionable, as well as making an argument about your interpretation (or what appears to be your interpretation) of the abortion referendums. It's up to you whether you answer or not (I'm not that pushed). But this whole 'you are 13' approach isn't really very convincing.
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Really. I actually enjoy this forum and debating with people of different views. You, however, are a commonly perceived irritant who can always be relied upon to throw in some irrelvancy but who actually has very little to say.
Now, I am embarrassed as I don't like to spend too much time squabbling with my inferiors. You probably have an evening of internet chat rooms and god only knows in front of you. I, on the other hand, have a life. So fk off
Yeah, that's pretty much the kind of thing I'm talking about, mattt.Really. I actually enjoy this forum and debating with people of different views. You, however, are a commonly perceived irritant who can always be relied upon to throw in some irrelvancy but who actually has very little to say.
Now, I am embarrassed as I don't like to spend too much time squabbling with my inferiors. You probably have an evening of internet chat rooms and god only knows in front of you. I, on the other hand, have a life. So fk off
Here's my argument (the one on this thread that you seem to be getting so het up about): your claim that the Irish people have rejected moves towards making abortion more freely available is incorrect. The basis for this argument is in the post above.
Now, if this is an 'irrelevancy' then your original claim must also be one.
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Let's say countries in the top 20 or so of the HDI list. Which wouldn't, by the way, include the two that Martan offered (rather pathetically) as examples.
Well that only shows how little Browne knows about SF's abortion policy.BTW you ought to read Browne in the Village this week. Very good on how SF has substituted real radicalism for middle class liberal platitudes. Abortion being top of the list
Again what is "middle class liberal" about our GUE/NGL partners, who all support the right of women to make our own reproductive decisions?
You are being overly simplistic. It was argued that it would further restrict abortion, and conversely that it would make it more readily available. There were pro-Life campaigners in favour of it, and also those opposed to it. Likewise there were pro-abortionists in favour of the change and opposed to it.
The issue was unclear for many people.
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