Ógra Shinn Féin Demand End to British Army Recruitment Drive

[badinage]

But the OTC isn't actually in a campus, is it? Its in a TA barracks. All that's in the campus is recruiting posters and stuff like that. So if you want, like Ogra B, Queens university to be "neutral ground", shouldn't you be calling for all political organisations, including SF, to be expelled from recruiting in the campus?

[pogo]

Why shouldn't the United Kingdom armed forces be able to recruit within the United Kingdom :

For the reasons already outlined

The main reason being that nationalists don't consider it "their army"?

But that means you accept that a majority of the people in NI do think its "their" army. So don't they have a right to join "their" army?

Exactly.

I don't believe anyone needs to be a mastermind to work that one out.

[pogo]

After decades of Apartheid

Cormac, do you know what apartheid is :

Could you please explain exactly when and where apartheid existed in Northern Ireland.

[RBinge]

civic_critic:

Anyone else notice any other ways we seem to be gradually merging with britain? Exactly which elements of irish nationalism and 'being irish' are now stronger than before and which weaker?

Maybe there should be chants of "west brit b'stards" in pubs where English or Scottish football matches are shown. :twisted:

even the accent used on the Luas to announce the stops along the route sounds remarkably english

Feck me, that's taking anti-Brit paranoia to new levels. The wrong kind of accent on the Luas? I'd better take de-elocution lessons when purer republicans than me take power in Ireland, in case my accent offends the true sons of Ireland.

For some reason I am reminded of a sketch Niall Tobin did in the 1970s.

An uber-Nationalist protests to a TV interviewer that "there's another thing that the Brits took from us...County Killarney!"

[Cormac Donaghey]

But the OTC isn't actually in a campus, is it? Its in a TA barracks. All that's in the campus is recruiting posters and stuff like that. So if you want, like Ogra B, Queens university to be "neutral ground", shouldn't you be calling for all political organisations, including SF, to be expelled from recruiting in the campus?

Now, now bad. The IRA have gone away you know. How about all the other armed groups.

[Cormac Donaghey]

After decades of Apartheid

Cormac, do you know what apartheid is :

Could you please explain exactly when and where apartheid existed in Northern Ireland.

Of course, the Apartheid regime in South Africa learned their trade from the Stormont regime and their Emergency Powers Acts. No votes, no housing, no jobs. Second class citizenship. Ring any bells there pogo.

[badinage]

But the OTC isn't actually in a campus, is it? Its in a TA barracks. All that's in the campus is recruiting posters and stuff like that. So if you want, like Ogra B, Queens university to be "neutral ground", shouldn't you be calling for all political organisations, including SF, to be expelled from recruiting in the campus?

Now, now bad. The IRA have gone away you know. How about all the other armed groups.

There will always be an army, navy, air force, and police force in Northern Ireland. The IRA have gone away. The British Army will not - if it does, it will be replaced by the Irish Army. There's no point in calling for the BA to just "go away because the IRA has", because it won't happen.

Now back to the question: are you calling for all divisive organisations, such as the BA, SF, DUP, etc, to be prevented from putting up recruiting posters in university campus'?

[badinage]

Of course, the Apartheid regime in South Africa learned their trade from the Stormont regime and their Emergency Powers Acts. No votes, no housing, no jobs. Second class citizenship. Ring any bells there pogo.

Oh I see what you mean. No catholic in Northern Ireland had a vote, a house, or a job. They all lived in the forests and lived off the land.

[pogo]

No votes, no housing, no jobs. Second class citizenship. Ring any bells there pogo.

To be perfectly honest, no it doesn't.

You'll find plenty of 'Irish' Americans such as Seabird who believe that kind of thing, however.

You would appear to have fallen victim to your own propaganda.

[Indyjoe]

The 6 county state was set up as a 'protestant state for a protestant people.' The armed forces, the RUC and Special constabulary, were the armed wing of unionism. They had vast powers of arrest and detention. It was a crime to reaise a tricolour. You could be hung for possesson of a gun. Single protestants were put first on the housing list before large catholic families. Catholics were seldom employed by protestant bosses in any large amounts, and when they were they suffered open bigotry. Catholics and protestants lived in different streets, different ghettos. When catholics started the Civil rights campaign they were beaten off the streets.
When in the 30's catholic and protestant workers joined together to demand better conditions, the state did everything in its power to fuel bigorty between the people and so break the workers.

If none of the above classifies as apartheid then I don't know what does.