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    Is there any point in Sinn Fein's continuing existence

    After N. Ireland (aka 6 counties) is sorted out. Is there any real point in SF sticking around?

    Have they made any meaningful contribution in Irish politics (a part from N. Ireland)?

    Does Irish politics need another FF type party?
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    Re: Is there any point in Sinn Fein's continuing existence

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim84

    Does Irish politics need another FF type party?
    No, which is why Sinn Féin are not another FF type party.

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    Re: Is there any point in Sinn Fein's continuing existence

    Quote Originally Posted by ireland2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim84

    Does Irish politics need another FF type party?
    No, which is why Sinn Féin are not another FF type party.


    wait a minute! You weren't joking
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    Jim, this is a bit of a sad thread. I know there are some other silly ones about labour going round, most probably because its your conference week in Clonmel this week (kudos on Darren Ryan by the way), but do you have to join the race to the bottom.

    once Northern Ireland is sorted out, the likelihood is that SF will be the largest or second largest party in the nation. What should we do then ? Fold up the tents.

    You could also add our contribution to the EU constitution debate. Who were the only Irish party to see that this wasn;t a runner ? SF

    Just because Labour have become a FG mudguard (pity for a party that had the potential for actually becoming relevant in Irish political life), but starting threads like this is a load of bollocks.
    1,197 people agree with me.. how many agree with you ?

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    Re: Is there any point in Sinn Fein's continuing existence

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim84
    Quote Originally Posted by ireland2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim84

    Does Irish politics need another FF type party?
    No, which is why Sinn Féin are not another FF type party.


    wait a minute! You weren't joking




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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel
    Jim, this is a bit of a sad thread. I know there are some other silly ones about labour going round, most probably because its your conference week in Clonmel this week (kudos on Darren Ryan by the way), but do you have to join the race to the bottom.
    I was inspired by the other threads and have not hit the bottom yet.

    N. Ireland situation is coming into the end game, I don't know what the solution is going to be like ... but it is getting closer.

    SF position within Irish Politics needs to be questioned. Economic, Waste, Healthcare, Childcare, Tax, Police Force, Civil Defence. I’ve not once heard SF defend their policy on any of those issue (and that just to name the ones of the top of my head)

    SF are great a grabbing headlines e.g. Adams attempt to meet the Rossport 5. But not on delivery of their promises, and that is something I’ve heard from SF voters.

    That thread about labour is unfounded. The Party has contributed a lot to the state, and the economic success is in part down to the policies of a Labour Minister of Finance. The same can not be said for SF

    FG/FF are populace. PD the right and Labour centre-left ... what has SF got to contribute to Irish politics.

    Green Party already argue against Europe. In my opinion argue the case better than any SF spokesperson I've heard.
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    Good post very original---who is the muse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim84
    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel
    Jim, this is a bit of a sad thread. I know there are some other silly ones about labour going round, most probably because its your conference week in Clonmel this week (kudos on Darren Ryan by the way), but do you have to join the race to the bottom.
    I was inspired by the other threads and have not hit the bottom yet.
    I fear for that thread.

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    N. Ireland situation is coming into the end game, I don't know what the solution is going to be like ... but it is getting closer.
    Yes, and we're at the forefront of it.

    SF position within Irish Politics needs to be questioned. Economic, Waste, Healthcare, Childcare, Tax, Police Force, Civil Defence. I’ve not once heard SF defend their policy on any of those issue (and that just to name the ones of the top of my head)
    Thats because we're never asked. people like yourself assume that the only thing we want to talk about is the 6 counties. It might be very important to us, but its not the only thing. Do you understand how frustrating it is for me to be brought into a local radio studio, as I was a few weeks ago, to discuss the overspending on the health service payroll system, and within 5 minutes end us discussing the Colombia 3.

    SF are great a grabbing headlines e.g. Adams attempt to meet the Rossport 5. But not on delivery of their promises, and that is something I’ve heard from SF voters.
    That wasn't headline grabbing. it was supporting the men. One of them is a SF member by the way.

    That thread about labour is unfounded. The Party has contributed a lot to the state, and the economic success is in part down to the policies of a Labour Minister of Finance. The same can not be said for SF
    We haven't had the chance yet. Give us time.

    FG/FF are populace. PD the right and Labour centre-left ... what has SF got to contribute to Irish politics.
    A credible left alternative. You know, where socialist parties tend to be. Where Labour should be.

    Green Party already argue against Europe. In my opinion argue the case better than any SF spokesperson I've heard.
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    Opinions are like arseholes Jim, we all have one.
    1,197 people agree with me.. how many agree with you ?

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    Is there any point in these threads?
    The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show.
    It is then we'll see the rising of the moon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duff
    Is there any point in these threads?
    Yes, it allows people like Jim to think Labour is anywhere remotely on the left...

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