Anti-Bush Anti Imperialism Raised Loud and Clear in Belfast

[MuhamedAbdullah]

Our war? The vast majority of people never supported the Provos when they were blowing up kids. It is not our war, it is your terrorist campaign. You use the term our war in terms of a nation state. We never sanctioned blowing up kids, Pakastani shop workers in canary Wharf, or plumbers and bricklaers because they worked on an RUC station. Get down from your high horse about GWB.

Just like a good little German. The resistance to the occupation is legitimate under international law. If you think that the IRA purposely killed people in the same way that the imperialists do then you need to do a little more study. However I guess you know the difference but just refuse to admit it because of your slavish anti republican outlook.

[Kerrygold]

If people cannot see the difference between 2 leaders of one state inviting the leader of the biggest and most powerful state in the world to visit and the leader of a political party inviting him, then thats their problem.

While I cringed when I saw that chunt Bush with Martin, I, for one, can understand the politics behind it.

i understood them to be the politics of imperialism in general and hypocritical submission to it .
whats your take on it ?

Politics of imperialism. Of course

[merle haggard]

Its not rhetoric. If you believe that a war of defence and a war of agression are the same then so be it. I personally don't. While all civilian deaths are tragic I would not for example condemn the French resistance in the way in which I would hold the Nazis.

Warrington was terrible but the Irish people never asked to be occupied. Our war was a response to that occupation and continues to be so. The US invasion of Iraq was agressive, it was in defence of nothing and was wrong.

Our war? The vast majority of people never supported the Provos when they were blowing up kids. It is not our war, it is your terrorist campaign. You use the term our war in terms of a nation state. We never sanctioned blowing up kids, Pakastani shop workers in canary Wharf, or plumbers and bricklaers because they worked on an RUC station. Get down from your high horse about GWB.

however you most certainly sanctioned British war crimes against the Irish people through your open support and calls for support for foreign armed forces in Ireland carrying those crimes out against the Irish people . Indeed you people strongly supported them to the extent that you regularly censored the media to esnure those crimes were not even disussed or highlighted .
your own high horse is looking a bit wobbly .

[merle haggard]

If people cannot see the difference between 2 leaders of one state inviting the leader of the biggest and most powerful state in the world to visit and the leader of a political party inviting him, then thats their problem.

While I cringed when I saw that chunt Bush with Martin, I, for one, can understand the politics behind it.

i understood them to be the politics of imperialism in general and hypocritical submission to it .
whats your take on it ?

Politics of imperialism. Of course

right so , British and US administrations dont do the politics of imperialism

[factual]

Martin McGuinness deserves more credit than people are giving.

Martin McGuinness was able to use his position to raise the issue of Iraq, Global Warming and Guantanamo Bay with President Bush as well as other issues. So it is quite untrue to say the leadership are cancelling out the actions of the activists; rather the two are acting hand in hand.

[MuhamedAbdullah]

Martin McGuinness deserves more credit than people are giving.

Martin McGuinness was able to use his position to raise the issue of Iraq, Global Warming and Guantanamo Bay with President Bush as well as other issues. So it is quite untrue to say the leadership are cancelling out the actions of the activists; rather the two are acting hand in hand.

So what if he got to raise these questions? I am sure Bush is already aware of them but he is not going to listen.

[fergalr]

Taking up arms as a last resort after being beaten off the street and burned out of your houses is a bit different to an unprovoked imperialist war resulting in the massacre of tens of thousands of people.

Is that what happened in Manchester, Canary Wharf and Enniskillen?

[Risen]

I thought this protest was both louder and clearer:

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