Rafferty murder: SF/IRA have questions to answer

[TheChief]

According to the Indo, the family of Joseph Rafferty are convinced that his killers were liked to Sinn Fein. The mane was killed in a bar in Dublin, in circumstances similar to the McCartney murder in Belfast.
Say the Indo: http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...issue_id=12965

At a meeting of Dublin City Council, councillor Garry Keegan said the Rafferty family had asked a Sinn Fein councillor to explain why he would not use his influence after the family asked him to intervene when Rafferty's life was threatened by the IRA

Anyone know what this is all about?

[cain1798]

According to the Indo, the family of Joseph Rafferty are convinced that his killers were liked to Sinn Fein. The mane was killed in a bar in Dublin, in circumstances similar to the McCartney murder in Belfast.

Anyone know what this is all about?

Yes. Firstly, Joe Rafferty was not killed in a bar in circumstances similar to the McCartney murder. He was shot dead outside his home next to his car.

His murder was carried out by an individual from the north inner city at the request of a family based in the south-east inner city who were intimidating members of Joe's family in a flat complex in the area and using the name of the republican movement to do so. The family were repeatedly told these individuals carrying out the intimidation had nothing to do with the republican movement and were repeatedly advised to press charges and go to the Garda Síochána.

None of the people, either the individual who carried out the murder or the family itself, includes anyone who has ever been a member of Sinn Féin, a Sinn Féin election worker or supporter. All their names are known to us, and to the Gardaí for that matter.

These people are not republicans. They are scum. Two of our councillors have offered to resign if they are proved to have lied about these people not being members of Sinn Féin. For what it's worth, as someone who has argued the point publically, you can have mine as well.

Sinn Féin distributed hundreds of leaflets in the area, including the house in which the family who ordered the murder live, calling on people to come forward and give evidence. We are currently distributing a free newspaper in the area that has a major article on the murder and again calls on people to come forward and make statements to the Gardaí.

I'm not going to get any further into this as naming names on an internet site might arouse a certain degree of problems. I would also ask other members of SF on the site who know details about this incident not to comment for the same reason.

[ChrIreland]

According to the Indo

So it has got to be true and unbiased if the Indo prints it. That's the joke of the year.

[DOD]

If there was half as much time spent actually solving crimes as finding ways to link them to SF we would have no crime rate left to speak of. Gutter politics of the lowest kind.

[TheChief]

If there was half as much time spent actually solving crimes as finding ways to link them to SF we would have no crime rate left to speak of. Gutter politics of the lowest kind.

I'd hardly say that Sam Smyth was a biased journalist, would you? he's certainly a bit sarcy at times, but not biased.

The family of the victim are making direct accusations against Sinn Fein - that can hardly go unreported? To ignore such a serioous charge would be "gutter politics" in my view

[DOD]

If there was half as much time spent actually solving crimes as finding ways to link them to SF we would have no crime rate left to speak of. Gutter politics of the lowest kind.

I'd hardly say that Sam Smyth was a biased journalist, would you? he's certainly a bit sarcy at times, but not biased.

Yes he is, the man detests SF.

[DOD]

If there was half as much time spent actually solving crimes as finding ways to link them to SF we would have no crime rate left to speak of. Gutter politics of the lowest kind.

I'd hardly say that Sam Smyth was a biased journalist, would you? he's certainly a bit sarcy at times, but not biased.

Yes he is, the man detests SF.

By the way it was you personally that I was accusing of Gutter politics.

[rockofcashel]

If there was half as much time spent actually solving crimes as finding ways to link them to SF we would have no crime rate left to speak of. Gutter politics of the lowest kind.

I'd hardly say that Sam Smyth was a biased journalist, would you? he's certainly a bit sarcy at times, but not biased.

The family of the victim are making direct accusations against Sinn Fein - that can hardly go unreported? To ignore such a serioous charge would be "gutter politics" in my view

I hate to say this Chief but this is weeks old. if you bothered to keep an eye on the newspapers you will see that the accusatioons were made months ag, and rather than ignoring the issue, as you seem to believe, Sinn Fein have been completely open about it.

But that doesn't really concern you does it. In fact, if you want to listen to SF's condemnation, and response, go look up the RTE archives, and you might be able to find a link to an interview given on the News at One with Cain above answering all the questions you need answered.

The only gutter behaviour here, is the insistence by media such as the Indo repeatedly dragging up things like this, rather than facing real political issues such as what in happening in North Antrim. Its just easier try to pin something on the Shinners.

As for the use of SF/IRA in the title. Thats just so passe chief.

[BarryW]

As for the use of SF/IRA in the title. Thats just so passe chief.

The term "Sinn Fein/IRA" was used by the Rafferty family themselves - so I think the use of the term here is justified.

But if it shocks you i'm sure we can get some smelling salts

[TheChief]

By the way it was you personally that I was accusing of Gutter politics.

why?? im just quoting the Indo. And i haven't put my own spin on it or anything like that