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    Disillusioned democrat Disillusioned democrat is offline
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    Sinn Fein Ard Fheis 2017 a turning point?

    The 2017 SF Ard Fheis could be a bit of a game changer.

    Two things on the old Clar that make for interesting reading (between the lines, that is).

    Gerry Adams to deliver a bombshell address - too big to release speech to the press in advance as would be the normal practice...so speculation rife that it's his departure timeline and

    Vote to change rules on entering coalition only as dominant partner.

    http://www.sinnfein.ie/files/2017/SF...017_email1.pdf

    This may well change the landscape for the next GE big-time.
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    Djarryango to retire by 3016...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post

    Vote to change rules on entering coalition only as dominant partner.
    Sensible in several ways

    1) avoids humiliation of being rebuffed
    2) avoids involvement in government - didn't work out well for them in NI, it is much easier to sit outside government and criticise than to have to make difficult decisions and then stand over them

    And of course the "Conscience" vs Party Whip issue will be interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    Djarryango to retire by 3016...
    He is not and never has been a member of SF .....
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    I hope the OP is right. Such changes would give Sinn Féin back its relevance for left-wing voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    The 2017 SF Ard Fheis could be a bit of a game changer.

    Two things on the old Clar that make for interesting reading (between the lines, that is).

    Gerry Adams to deliver a bombshell address - too big to release speech to the press in advance as would be the normal practice...so speculation rife that it's his departure timeline and

    Vote to change rules on entering coalition only as dominant partner.

    http://www.sinnfein.ie/files/2017/SF...017_email1.pdf

    This may well change the landscape for the next GE big-time.
    Who'd coalesce with them that would be in any position to form a Govt?

    It's probably just accepting the fact that nobody will so why bother continuing with the pretence that they'll only participate if they're the dominant 'partner'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    Djarryango to retire by 3016...
    But his very expensive enamel and titanium false teeth have an expected life of 2,000 years. It's hard to imagine him stepping aside before his teeth have reached their sell-by date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    The 2017 SF Ard Fheis could be a bit of a game changer.

    Two things on the old Clar that make for interesting reading (between the lines, that is).

    Gerry Adams to deliver a bombshell address - too big to release speech to the press in advance as would be the normal practice...so speculation rife that it's his departure timeline and

    Vote to change rules on entering coalition only as dominant partner.

    http://www.sinnfein.ie/files/2017/SF...017_email1.pdf

    This may well change the landscape for the next GE big-time.
    Interesting post - pity it degenerated into the usual, and unfunny, ad hominem drivel. (I'm only surprised that Cruimh missed the open goal of Adams 'delivering a bombshell'.) I'm not sure that secrecy surrounding the speech is necessarily an indication that Adams will reveal the time of his departure; a party as micro-managed and choreographed as SF might want to manage such an announcement more carefully than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Sensible in several ways

    1) avoids humiliation of being rebuffed
    2) avoids involvement in government - didn't work out well for them in NI, it is much easier to sit outside government and criticise than to have to make difficult decisions and then stand over them

    And of course the "Conscience" vs Party Whip issue will be interesting
    What many people seem to have forgotten about the UK is the €1bn bribe the DUP got.

    As I can figure it out as long as SF aren't part of the NI government "Ash for cash" Arlene can't spend the £1bn bung she got from May to prop up a weak Tory government. The £1bn would buy a lot of votes for the DUP, so SF needing to sail close to the rocks on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lúidín View Post
    I hope the OP is right. Such changes would give Sinn Féin back its relevance for left-wing voters.
    The Clar is available for all to see, but the radio this morning was abuzz with speculation over the fact that Gerry Adams' speech won't be available in advance for reporters because of its "epic" impact.

    The discussion on coalition is defined on the Clar.
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