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    Irish Times lies about Sinn Féin's position on coalition again

    Sinn Féin's changed coalition stance is the big political move of 2017

    Once again the Irish Times, the former unionist newspaper, through laziness, incompetence or malice, reports incorrectly on what Sinn Féin's position on participation in a coalition government is.

    Put simply, Sinn Féin will participate as a minority partner in government, provided that the government nevertheless is a majority left led government. That was the position the party adopted prior to the last election.

    There has been no change to that position since since before the last election.
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    What a relief. Unless FF are considered a left wing party?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    What a relief. Unless FF are considered a left wing party?
    Obviously not. The issue always was whether Labour could be considered a left wing party. I'd say no, but I'd imagine the Ard Comhairle would say yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodShaft View Post
    Sinn Féin's changed coalition stance is the big political move of 2017

    Once again the Irish Times, the former unionist newspaper, through laziness, incompetence or malice, reports incorrectly on what Sinn Féin's position on participation in a coalition government is.

    Put simply, Sinn Féin will participate as a minority partner in government, provided that the government nevertheless is a majority left led government. That was the position the party adopted prior to the last election.

    There has been no change to that position since since before the last election.
    Nuance not a strong point of yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwin View Post
    Nuance not a strong point of yours?
    Not a strong point of theirs obvs.
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    What does it matter what SF's position on coalition is?(no one would touch them with a bargepoll. FF would have to change its leader, "labour" would have to have a savage fight with its conscience, FG are just a flat no, the aaa/pbp/Sol crowd won't have enough numbers. There is no DUP in the 26 counties).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodShaft View Post
    Sinn Féin's changed coalition stance is the big political move of 2017

    Once again the Irish Times, the former unionist newspaper, through laziness, incompetence or malice, reports incorrectly on what Sinn Féin's position on participation in a coalition government is.

    Put simply, Sinn Féin will participate as a minority partner in government, provided that the government nevertheless is a majority left led government. That was the position the party adopted prior to the last election.

    There has been no change to that position since since before the last election.
    No need to worry your head about that. FF and FG will finally notice their joint electoral mandate while leaving the Shinners and sundry freelance loons howling at the moon.
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    They discount coalition with FF/FG now, they say they'll talk them after the next election and see if something can be done. That's a shift. I wouldn't say it's a "big political move" , certainly not of the year given there's a new leader of the country, but that's because I don't have to fill up an article on a slow weekend.

    But it is a shift.

    The difference between "we'll talk to FF (most likely) or FG after election" and "We'll only be part of a left wing coalition excluding FF and Labour" is the same difference as your parents saying "We'll buy you a pony if we can afford it after your mum's next pay review" and "We'll buy you a pony but only if it's a My Little Pony come to life, and then only if it's Pinky Pie, none of the others."
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodShaft View Post
    Sinn Féin's changed coalition stance is the big political move of 2017

    Once again the Irish Times, the former unionist newspaper, through laziness, incompetence or malice, reports incorrectly on what Sinn Féin's position on participation in a coalition government is.

    Put simply, Sinn Féin will participate as a minority partner in government, provided that the government nevertheless is a majority left led government. That was the position the party adopted prior to the last election.

    There has been no change to that position since since before the last election.
    SF have been known to change their policy on things in the past . Largely these shifts were agreed by hard worldly men in dark rooms and the membership in the main rubber stamped through a vote . What makes you think this issue is any different ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Congalltee View Post
    What does it matter what SF's position on coalition is?(no one would touch them with a bargepoll. FF would have to change its leader, "labour" would have to have a savage fight with its conscious, FG are just a flat no, the aaa/pbp/Sol crowd won't have enough numbers. There is no DUP in the 26 counties).
    It's conscience, and they'd win.
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