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    Novos Novos is online now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdebru View Post
    So once elected the murder of innocent civilians for political gain is not terrorism ? Are they only inhuman atrocities if the perpetrator is unelected ? So for example dropping an atomic bomb on a city killing innocent men, women and children by the tens of thousands is not an inhuman atrocity if done by an elected government ?
    It depends on intent. If the Security Force have to kill terrorists to protect you and your family and defeat terror gangs. I approve of that.
    If a terror gang want to kill you to enhance their reputation as murderous thugs and grab a few headlines. I don't support that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novos View Post
    It depends on intent. If the 'Security Force' have to kill terrorists to protect you and your family and defeat terror gangs. I approve of that.
    Martin McGuinness was some shot all the same.....the PIRA took out many terrorists wearing brit army uniforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWolf View Post
    Martin McGuinness was some shot all the same.....the PIRA took out many terrorists wearing brit army uniforms.
    Obviously not a good enough shot to achieve his aims, but did well getting a job working for the brits all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdebru View Post
    So once elected the murder of innocent civilians for political gain is not terrorism ? Are they only inhuman atrocities if the perpetrator is unelected ? So for example dropping an atomic bomb on a city killing innocent men, women and children by the tens of thousands is not an inhuman atrocity if done by an elected government ?

    "David Caldwell", "Novos", "Sgt. Harper", "Sgt. Bilko" - all apologists for British colonialism, militarism, terrorism and murder over centuries throughout the world, including in Ireland.

    Their hypocrisy has been well and truly exposed on this Forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McSlaggart View Post
    One target of the bombing was the Ruhr is the largest urban agglomeration in Germany.
    There was a huge ball bearing factory in the Ruhr, along with other engineering works. That factory was supplying ball bearings for all of the vehicles, ships, aircraft etc. used by the 3rd Reich. it had to be destroyed because of that. What did you want? that the allies never bombed the dams, or perhaps dropped leaflets beforehand saying they were going to? Both are ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novos View Post
    Obviously not a good enough shot to achieve his aims, but did well getting a job working for the brits all the same.
    And then he got elected...
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    Quote Originally Posted by redneck View Post
    One thing I did'nt like about the British Army was their failure to help the US in Vietnam. In Europe the British army on the Rhine (BAOR) stood fast against the Russians. But it was the Austalian army who did the fighting against the Viet cong and North Vietnamese.
    I understand that the Vietnam war was wrong, but the UK could have helped our American friends a bit more.
    Why? The septics should not have gone into Vietnam in the first place? Plus, if the BAOR had been withdrawn to go to Vietnam, the Soviets would have been across the inner German border in a flash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novos View Post
    Any unelected gang who murder innocent civilians for political gain are terrorists. It's simple stuff.
    PIRA/UVF/ISIS all the same and all guilty of inhuman atrocities.
    Quote Originally Posted by Novos View Post
    It depends on intent. If the Security Force have to kill terrorists to protect you and your family and defeat terror gangs. I approve of that.
    If a terror gang want to kill you to enhance their reputation as murderous thugs and grab a few headlines. I don't support that.

    thats not what you said, you said you were talking about the murder of innocent people for political gains, now you are off on a tangent about killing terrorists, presuming you don't consider terrorists to be innocent people can you get back to what you said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Novos View Post
    Any unelected gang who murder innocent civilians for political gain are terrorists. It's simple stuff.
    so that means if elected the murder of innocent civilians is not terrorism, you said this was simple stuff, so say Hamas firing rockets into Israel is not terrorism because Hamas were elected, and likewise the Israelis doing the same to Gaza is not Terrorism because they were also elected.

    Do they have to be elected on the platform of murdering innocent people ? Like say they didn't mention it when they were running for election but when elected murder innocent people is that covered or not ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_SR View Post
    No British government could have refused them? Except for all of them from 1921 until it literally exploded in the late 60s. The civil rights campaign was brutalised by the British state, hence the violence.

    You aren't even trying now.
    The British Government played no part in the running of NI from 1921 until they imposed direct rule. It was ruled by Stormont!
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    And then he got elected...
    See what you did there. You deem it suspicious that the might of the British empire could never catch a person reputed to be the head of the PIRA.
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