Gerrys new Master Plan

[factual]

Id on't think that Gerry was presenting this as a master plan. Clearly the two conferences will help however and he has a point about building on goodwill and how close we were to getting elected in the Donegals.

[Skin]

ah perhaps to subtle with the humor, the article (not posting here as per forum rules) is about Adams / SF conference on a SF electoral comeback and all it is is the usual GA waffle and nonsense, as opposed to anything of any substance.

Seriously, it quotes from a stragety meeting and does not contain the whole minutes of that meeting - this is a load of bollocks!!

Read this, its great crap...craic, sorry.

http://www.finegael.ie/news/index.cfm/t ... 7/pkey/653

you completely miss my point (or choose to) SF took a mauling in the elections in the ROI and after this strategy meeting GA is again banging on about republicanism, united Ireland, unionist engagement, etc,etc.

It does not take a genius to realise that these are not the issues that matter to the majority of the electorate in the ROI but yet he continues to believe (or give the impression) that he believes they are.

To me it clearly shows that he is as out of touch now as he was in May with the electorate in the ROI and thus the new master plan ( where are you reading this) is more of the same.

btw your retort of starting a new posting "Enda's new master plan"was one of the weakest, poorest and down right pathetic retorts i've seen in a long long time.

Your right, it was a pathetic post, thats why I apologised in advance. This is also a pathetic topic and your post above proves it.

You say "SF took a mauling in the elections in the ROI". The fact is they lost one seat and increased their overall vote. A disappointment - yes, well off there projected aims - yes, but a mauling - no.

You say "GA is again banging on about republicanism, united Ireland, unionist engagement, etc,etc."

- Nowhere in your alleged "master plan" does he mention a united ireland as you say he does, instead he says "to take account of the political realities of Ireland today" and what matter if he did mention a united Ireland

- What are the issues that matter to the majority then? Certainly FG dont know.
What is Enda's new master plan? Actually what was his first one, oh yeah..."the contract"

"Endas new master plan" was a lame topic, but so is this.

I apologised in advance, may be you can apologise now.

[drbob1972]

i feel no need to apologise, there is nothing wrong with what i said, GA's comment's / press conference / interview (what ever it actually) as reported by the IT, was just more of the same old same old.

Whilst it was not a detailed briefing or strategy report but the fact that it was the out come (as reported) of a meeting discussing recovering from the poor GE results and he didn't mention a single issue of real import to the majority of the electorate in ROI is to me at least a pretty clear sign that its more of the same and that whilst the man may be on top of his game with regards to NI politics when it comes to the ROI he's somewhat at sea.

[bogtrotter]

What is it? There is nothing in that link.

exactly :P

So what is your point....

[Skin]

i feel no need to apologise, there is nothing wrong with what i said, GA's comment's / press conference / interview (what ever it actually) as reported by the IT, was just more of the same old same old.

Whilst it was not a detailed briefing or strategy report but the fact that it was the out come (as reported) of a meeting discussing recovering from the poor GE results and he didn't mention a single issue of real import to the majority of the electorate in ROI is to me at least a pretty clear sign that its more of the same and that whilst the man may be on top of his game with regards to NI politics when it comes to the ROI he's somewhat at sea.

So having read your own post, "more of the same old, same old" etc, how do you determine that there is a 'new Master Plan'?
If this is an attempt at being sarcastic, it has failed miserably. There is nothing in the link you provided that indicates how SF will implement its strategy (or also commonly reffered to as a 'plan').
The report is simply a few soundbites that appeal to supporters of SF, which is no different from what any other party, or party leader, including Enda "The Contract" (remember that?) Kenny would use.

This topic is baseless, has no substance and should be locked.

[PatMcL]

i feel no need to apologise, there is nothing wrong with what i said, GA's comment's / press conference / interview (what ever it actually) as reported by the IT, was just more of the same old same old.

Whilst it was not a detailed briefing or strategy report but the fact that it was the out come (as reported) of a meeting discussing recovering from the poor GE results and he didn't mention a single issue of real import to the majority of the electorate in ROI is to me at least a pretty clear sign that its more of the same and that whilst the man may be on top of his game with regards to NI politics when it comes to the ROI he's somewhat at sea.

Please take the time to do a bit of analysis on a topic before commenting and making a complete a*se of yourself. Adam's comments were at a strategy conference for Belfast activists at St Kevin's Hall in North Belfast. So it was not a press conference or an interview. In a wide ranging speech dealing with the issues facing Belfast activists he touched briefly on the 26 county election and thanked those present for helping during that election. He then briefly stated that the lessons of that election had been learnt and that among other things 2 conferences would be held before Christmas. In the context of a Belfast meeting it would be nonsense to go into the detail you whinge about.

[drbob1972]

Pat, i posted and commented on the contents and in the context of the Irish Times article, which only mentions the comments and matter of the GE in the ROI, there are no other references to any thing discussed at the meeting or in his speech nor did i comment on them.

The article solely refers to the GE in the ROI and SF's setbacks, it also only quotes adams referring t the usual republican stuff (which may not be a surprise if as you say it was at a Belfast activists meeting though the IT didn't mention that) which is not of great import to most of us in the RoI

thus based on the information provided in the article i believe my "analysis" is correct, you may not like it or agree with it but i am entitled to my opinion on same

[Skin]

Pat, i posted and commented on the contents and in the context of the Irish Times article, which only mentions the comments and matter of the GE in the ROI, there are no other references to any thing discussed at the meeting or in his speech nor did i comment on them.

So how did you come about the headline for your topic "Gerrys new Master Plan"? Other than it was a failed and lazy attempt at wit.

[quote:1b6eacu5]The article solely refers to the GE in the ROI and SF's setbacks, it also only quotes adams referring t the usual republican stuff (which may not be a surprise if as you say it was at a Belfast activists meeting though the IT didn't mention that) which is not of great import to most of us in the RoI

Who are the "us" you are now proclaiming to speak for?

thus based on the information provided in the article i believe my "analysis" is correct, you may not like it or agree with it but i am entitled to my opinion on same

[/quote:1b6eacu5]

You have to be kidding, you started this topic with a false headline and stated that Adams had a plan for dominating the whole country.

A far cry from what is actually in the link you posted.

[drbob1972]

i was being sarcastic you dim witted twat

for feck sake give it a rest i was merely taking the piss of out GA and the perceived cluelessness (sic) of his plan for SF recovery in the ROI as based on the article in the IT, i thought the smiley face would have been clear in my original posting.

[CookieMonster]

i was being sarcastic you dim witted twat

It's like having a terrier nip at your ankles.