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Thread: DUP to name SF informer: Sunday Times

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    have to admit that's how it comes across sometimes though..... the opposition to Acht na Gaeilge being the latest example I can think of..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogwarrior
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    Let's hope whoever it is doesn't share the ultimate fate as Denis Donaldson.
    Let's not.
    Denis Donaldson isnt dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skin
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    Let's hope whoever it is doesn't share the ultimate fate as Denis Donaldson.
    Let's not.
    Denis Donaldson isnt dead.
    I hope to Christ he is. They buried him.
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    Standards of Proof

    The Liam Clarke story says that a DUP MP, David Simpson, will name a prominent Sinn Féin representative as a spy - another Denis Donaldson or Freddie Scappaticci - in the House of Commons - in more than one month's time.

    This is a very serious issue - Donaldson was killed after admitting he was an informer. A very high level of proof is required - the term "beyond a reasonable doubt" is apt - before discussing this matter any further. So also is the concept "innocent until proven guilty".

    An indvidual's life and reputation is at stake.

    Liam Clarke's detail narrows down the list of suspects to a a particular, small, geographical area - people who live there, and who are familiar with local political personalities, have probably already guessed who Simpson intends to name.

    Either the people making and reporting this allegation immediately stand it up, or they instantly withdraw it - there can be no middle way.

    I'm one hundred per cent opposed to a governmental coalition with a far-right fundamentalist religious organisation such as Ian Paisley's Democratic Unionist Party. Of course, that does not mean, automatically, that Simpson is wrong. Neither does it mean the Sunday Times is lying, simply because it is a right-wing newspaper.

    But, perhaps, some Sinn Féin members will, because of this ugly episode, think again about the results of cuddling up to reactionaries.

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    simpson an agent? yes, i have considered it as with many others in the north

    in fact, i know a lot about this topic through my work.. let's leave it at that.

    what i can tell you, without fear of libel is that each newspaper group in the country (particularly Indo - and it isn't and never was Arnold) has high placed informants (i don't like the word agents).

    as for politics - not really with the exception of FF, one high profile former minister was an informer and one of their closest advisors also was (it's not Mansergh).

    Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness were never informers - believe it or not the SDLP is far more riddled than SF.

    Also, you would be surprised of the extent to which certain prominent 'mainland' British politicians and media types are partial to feeding our people...

    However, the role of Mi5 and Intelligence is much over-stated on this island... it's not as significant as people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insider2007
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    Im waiting for the day when the DUP start being politicians instead of scaremongers and bigots who's entire existance is to prevent irish nationalists achieving anything from recognition of their own culture to the right to live in a democratic society.
    FFS.
    Ooops there i go again upsetting, the jolly good old chaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve
    Quote Originally Posted by Insider2007
    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve
    Im waiting for the day when the DUP start being politicians instead of scaremongers and bigots who's entire existance is to prevent irish nationalists achieving anything from recognition of their own culture to the right to live in a democratic society.
    FFS.
    Ooops there i go again upsetting, the jolly good old chaps.

    Heres a question, which DUP member is well known for his/her great economic abilities,great policy making skills,diplomas,great respect for justice and truth and great work amongst both sides of the community?
    Oh, that's one of those rhetorical questions I've heard so much about, isn't it!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye
    An indvidual's life and reputation is at stake.
    Maybe they will just see him as a pioneer of their current strategy. After all what can PSF say as this man (if true) was just doing all along what they are asking people to do now.
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    It's not right, irrespective of who does it or who it is done about. Should be tested in the courts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MookieBaylock

    Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness were never informers - believe it or not the SDLP is far more riddled than SF.
    Of course! It makes perfect sense. No wonder their operations were so compromised.

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    J118: Well sir, he may have broken a red light on his way home from the office.

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    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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