Will Adams expel Tax Evading Sinn Féin T.D.s?

[tokkie]

Are you seriously asking me that?

I'm making the point that because something is law doesn't mean it's fair and just.

I know but it still a tad Godwinesque. The same legal system that legislated for slavery was not based on a democracy of universal emancipation. Therefore you cannot compare the legal systems. The legal system legislating for the household charge is based on a democracy of universal emancipation. No comparison even in the manner you would like there to be.

[an innocent abroad]

i believe I'm correct, Tomás, in thinking that the guy who is "the highest recipient of expenses as published last week", wears a shirt every bit as blue as yours,
& that numerous FG "TDS were among the highest recipients of expenses as published last week".
now - i don't know if the FG TDs trousered all of their expenses, or if they donated some of them to the FG "politburo".
anyway - the FG politburo is not short of wealthy financiers, is it Tomás ??

While you guys are trying to get one up on each other about who claimed the most expenses! We are being screwed by them alll! right wing, left wing, my wing, your wing, Who gives a ************************ what wing their are called!

They are all screwing us! It's our taxes, it's our food, our childrens educations, our lives! They all have the one thing in common!


They are all BOTTOM FEEDERS WHEN IT COMES TO EXPENSES. It's not about right or wrong. It's about, HOW MUCH and HOW OFTEN F.F.F.G. L/P. S.F. Ind. It's because they CAN!
That is the one thing they all have in common. Stop fooling yourselves! ONLY One man did not claim expenses out of the complete right wing, left wing middle wing and no Fxxxxxg wing stepped up!

[Lonewolfe]

I know but it still a tad Godwinesque. The same legal system that legislated for slavery was not based on a democracy of universal emancipation. Therefore you cannot compare the legal systems. The legal system legislating for the household charge is based on a democracy of universal emancipation. No comparison even in the manner you would like there to be.

OK, corporal punishment was legal here - now it ain't. Get the point?

[CarnivalOfAction]

its hardly unlikely tax evasion will make SF change their policy

Hardly unlikely indeed.

[Bleu Poppy]

Will Adams expel Tax Evading Sinn Féin T.D.s?

A major ethical choice confronts Gerry Adams in whether he will insist upon tax compliance by his Oireachtas members, requiring them to comply with he democratically enacted laws of the land.

Sinn Féin is still only a slightly constitutional party in that Sinn Féin T.D.s are refusing to pay the household charge in accordance with law, and have decided to keep the money even though they are paid almost 100k by the State on top of massive expenses.

Sinn Féin could have sought a referendum under article 27 of the Constitution to oppose the local charge law but choose not to do so.

How can any party leader tolerate tax dodging Oireachtas members in his parlimentary party? Does he allow his T.D.s to arbitrarily decide not to pay any tax they please regardless of their ability to pay?

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[greybadger]

Your spelling is no better

Oops.

[Bleu Poppy]

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Tell me, how many FG & FF "public representatives" have been caught dodging tax?

By the way, SF aren't dodging anything, they're taking a principled stand.

Also, numb nuts, they're a fully constitutional Party.

Get it?

1/. Several have been caught cheating and in the case of FG representatives, they are thrown out of the party.

How many Sinn Féin public reps have criminal convictions.... quite a few. What's the surest path to becoming a SF public re (until fairly recently). Get a criminal conviction and as you are little or no use to the 'cause' of violence when released, stand fro election as a SF candidate. How do you become a 'community activist'- get caught after you've been elected to public office!

2/. Sinn Féin haven't a clue how the constitution works in the country where they have most representation and most power and have constantly shown scant regard for the constitution of the country where their party leader sits in parliament.

If ye haven't been recognising the courts of the lands established constitutionally it must be difficult paying the legitimately raised taxes and charges under the same constitutions...... unless they are deducted at source!

Come to think of it, does anyone recall an entry for Martin McGuinness's local taxes in the so-called list of outgoings that he released during the Presidential campaign?

[tokkie]

OK, corporal punishment was legal here - now it ain't. Get the point?

So you admit you were wrong to contrast slavery with the household charge. Good boy. Now you are learning.

[CarnivalOfAction]

1/. Several have been caught cheating and in the case of FG representatives, they are thrown out of the party.

Did the FG liars who compounded the grief of the Ludlow family for over 20 years get thrown out?

Oh wait; you still think the Ra murdered Séamus.

[Lonewolfe]

So you admit you were wrong to contrast slavery with the household charge. Good boy. Now you are learning.

Oh dear, you're a tool.

You're obviously incapable of dealing with the substantive point.

Have a lie down and leave the discussion to the adults.