Sinn Fein & the Household & Water Taxes Campaign.

[Rambo83]

Why not ask SF ? You get no answer here.
Send an email to Gerry Adams and tell us later what he replied to your mail.
His e-mail:
gerry.adams@oir.ie

You ask an intelligent question you get an inteligent answer as such. The e-mail is cyber space, as we speak! It is an all.

Considering your reply, maybe we sould stop using polictics.ie, or any other form of debate and instead pass on any questions or debate to our "polititical leaders" in FF FG SF DUP Lab SDLP or Lab? Yes what a political euphoria! Who needs political debate when we have such "leaders"! Sure they can tell us all the solutions via e-mail!

Or....maybe the mass movement of the Campaign of against Household & Water Taxes, say Don't Register, Don't Pay! Boycott the Household & Water Tax!

Or we listen to SF say we oppose this but, we like to scarmoger on behalf of the Leinster House "Government" as we brought in Water Taxes in the North on behalf of the Tories! Yes the Tories the ultra right-wing part of the British Establishment that allowed 10 brave men and others to die!]

I'm waiting for Gerry's final thought! Its a bit like the Gerry Springfield Show! Gerry! Gerry! Gerry!

[Rambo83]

Adams calls on Taoiseach to axe household charge - YouTube

Ironic & funny to see even Kenny point out the hypocritical of SF's Austerity in the North & no Austerity in the South policy. Talking in relation to the Household Tax. SF accept a similar tax in the North of £1200 approx. How can an All-Ireland have such a partitionist & hypocritical policy?

Since Gerry Adams "opposes" this tax, why does he not call for mass non-payment. 94% of People so far have not payed this tax, with no support from Gerry & co.

[CarnivalOfAction]

Adams calls on Taoiseach to axe household charge - YouTube

Ironic & funny to see even Kenny point out the hypocritical of SF's Austerity in the North & no Austerity in the South policy. Talking in relation to the Household Tax. SF accept a similar tax in the North of £1200 approx. How can an All-Ireland have such a partitionist & hypocritical policy?

Since Gerry Adams "opposes" this tax, why does he not call for mass non-payment. 94% of People so far have not payed this tax, with no support from Gerry & co.

You're just as thick as the FG/FF/LP Tweedles; the main reason that there is no fiscal sovereignty in the OSC is coz, when Harold Wilson, offered to give Ireland back to the Irish, the FG/LP government did all they could to wreck the prospect of irish ppl controlling their own affairs.

As for calling for mass non-payment: the micro-left did that with bin charges then scarpered, leaving low-paid workers with bills of € thousands.

[Rambo83]

You're just as thick as the FG/FF/LP Tweedles; the main reason that there is no fiscal sovereignty in the OSC is coz, when Harold Wilson, offered to give Ireland back to the Irish, the FG/LP government did all they could to wreck the prospect of irish ppl controlling their own affairs.

As for calling for mass non-payment: the micro-left did that with bin charges then scarpered, leaving low-paid workers with bills of € thousands.

Yes that was the 1970's, this is 2012, & the major reason the 6 counties is occuiped, and is now facing huge austerity is because the Quislings in SF are normalizing British rule. One of several ways they are Normalization British rule is they SF, implement British austerity, similar in the way Lab,FF,FG, implement IMF/EU austerity. Even idiots from the SWP to biggest idiot of all Kenny are pointing out the hyprocritic stance of the SF policy of austerity in the North Good, but in the South Bad! Any idiot even you should be able to figure that one out.

The old SF "agruement" of micro-groups. When they haven't a leg to stand on they revert to the micro-group argument. Maybe you have fail to notice again the hyrocritsy of this micro-group stance, considering modern history. The SF movement where up to the 90s a micro-group in the 26 counties. They had roughly 1-2% of support in the South in the electrate when the conflict was on. They had on councillor in Dublin for years, who conisidenly left SF. A majority of people in the North 80% plus percent did not vote for SF during the conflict. So what is SF point about "micro-groups"? The majority know best? I will give you an example of some micro-groups, the men & women of 1916, The Connolly Column, The formation of the Provisional IRA, & Republican Men & Women of the 1970s dirty wash protest. So what is your point about groups don't have mass support? They are irrelevant?

The Bin Charge Campaign was indead deafeated, look what has happened. Bin collection has been privitised. Walk around the city and see the amount of un-collected waste with red stickers, as people can't afford the Bin Tax. You & SF spread deaftisim.

As you say "micro-groups" of the left have call via the CAHWT for mass non-payment of the Household Tax. And look what to date has happened 94% of people have not registered, & not payed. Its amazing what "micro-groups" can do! And you as a Republican (I think) should know this. If and hopefully it doesn't pass, Irish people will be left with huge bills from this tax, like the people of North.

94% of people have not payed, with no support from Adams and co, because Adams & co, have implemented similar Austerity in the North. Even the biggest fool can see this, even Kenny! Its all very well Adams talking in Leinster House, but when or has he spoke at a community meeting on this, dropped a few leaflets ect.?

[making waves]

As for calling for mass non-payment: the micro-left did that with bin charges then scarpered, leaving low-paid workers with bills of € thousands.

Evidence that any single individual was left with a bill of thousands - its utter rubbish.

[CarnivalOfAction]

The Bin Charge Campaign was indead deafeated, look what has happened. Bin collection has been privitised. Walk around the city and see the amount of un-collected waste with red stickers, as people can't afford the Bin Tax. You & SF spread deaftisim.

As you say "micro-groups"

Mea culpa; shoulda been "illiterate groups".

[loner]

Kerrygold - have you seen any threads started by Rambo that are not about SF?

So you are dead right -he is talking crap and probably so because SF is leading the way everywhere, and the poor boy'een knows it!

SF is leading the way to nowhere--they are toeing the line in NI and explaining there stance by telling us they are not in charge of fundind--this is a matter for Her Majestys Govt--what representations have they made to that Govt to express their dissatisfaction with the measures that they are taking up there --have they made any protest ,gone on the blanket or otherwise complained or are they happy to be taking the shilling. Down here we have the spectacle of Gerry posturing in Dail Eireann in his pidgin Irish and day after day reciting a mantra about paying bondholders----maybe he should be asking some of his erstwhile colleagues to rob a few big German and French banks to recoup the money we are paying

[NLPete]

SF seem to be leading the way down these parts.

Not sure what Rambo is talking about.

Same as that! big local meet and SF had the only rep not paying...also town and locality march....SF had the only TD present.

Plus! SF party workers at all events and organizational meetings outnumber support from other parties within the anti charges campaign in our district. and not seeking any glory either....just doing the work.

[making waves]

Plus! SF party workers at all events and organizational meetings outnumber support from other parties within the anti charges campaign in our district. and not seeking any glory either....just doing the work.

How many meeting can you organised based on 'sign our petition and vote for us' - the meetings must last about 5 minutes.

[NLPete]

How many meeting can you organised based on 'sign our petition and vote for us' - the meetings must last about 5 minutes.

I’m saying that SF party members and volunteers are actively assisting anti charges groups to organize are partaking in meetings and protests without seeking recognition, votes or support for their party.
No party literature/banners/or recruitment activity at any mee or protest I have attended – Full stop.