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The demographics strategy! Yes my favourite crack-pot strategy! Basically the Nationalist outbreed the Unionists! Shag your way to a United Ireland. Madness! Utter Madness. Sounds like this "strategy" comes straight out of Mein Kemp! Yet the irony of it is SF normalizes British Rule in Ireland resulting in less of support for a United Ireland amongst Nationalist population. So who is to say when the Nationalist people become a majority in the North, 2060, 2100, whenever, that they so used to the Normalization of the state do not want to become a part of an Irish Republic. How many people living within the Northern State would at the present want to become a part of this IMF/EU Banana Republic?Originally Posted by Plebian
Again also the "strategy" of gaining power on both sides of the border, is nonsense. First of all SF do not have power in the North, neither do the DUP. The British establishment have the power in the North. The decide the laws, the courts, fiscal, defence policy. The Quailing’s in SF, just administer British Rule in the 6 counties. They are not in power, but the propaganda says they do. Yet while the accept & legitimise British rule in Ireland how will they bring about a poll. It is in the GFA that the people of "Northern Ireland" will decide on Unity or remaining in the UK, not the Irish people.
So how are we to have this All-Irish Poll on unity? It won't come from the North, the British or Leinster House. No we are told that SF must take power in Leinster House. Elect us into Leinster House how we can bring about a United Ireland. Again Rubbish. By administering British Rule in Ireland, they sign up to the fact that unity will be decided not by the Irish People, but by the Northern State.
But let’s consider that an Irish Republic was somehow brought about by the 6 million Irish people. Considering that SF in implementing cuts on behalf of the British Rule, very happily and without argument, they would be ideal for the IMF/EU as puppets in Leinster House just like "socialist" Labour. Just look at West Belfast, a SF "stronghold", where SF has near total public representation. West Belfast at present is one of the most deprived areas in both Ireland and Britain. Would there be much difference in how this country the Irish Working People is continually exploited. Instead of a 26 county banana republic, we would have a 32-County Binna Republic, with tricolours on City Hall & Guild Hall. Where the same exploitation of Belfast & Dublin people would be under the same flag.
Republicanism with out Socialism is not enough. A Socialist Republic is required.
Connolly recognised this,
"If you remove the English army to-morrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle, unless you set about the organisation of the Socialist Republic your efforts would be in vain. England would still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs. England would still rule you to your ruin, even while your lips offered hypocritical homage at the shrine of that Freedom whose cause you had betrayed. Nationalism without Socialism – without a reorganisation of society on the basis of a broader and more developed form of that common property which underlay the social structure of Ancient Erin - is only national recreancy. It would be tantamount to a public declaration that our oppressors had so far succeeded in inoculating us with their perverted conceptions of justice and morality that we had finally decided to accept those conceptions as our own, and no longer needed an alien army to force them upon us. As a Socialist I am prepared to do all one man can do to achieve for our motherland her rightful heritage – independence; but if you ask me to abate one jot or tittle of the claims of social justice, in order to conciliate the privileged classes, then I must decline." - James Connolly
Strip away the suits they allow near the media and you will see the usual Sinner rablble, illiterates, local scum
Yes, the last thing before suspension...not the first thing on taking office. The over-riding purpose given to taking that action seems the same to me, i.e. there are things that must be done first, and things that must be done before you leave. I forgot which one it was.
I didn't think it was feasible for McGuinness to dictate admissions policy across state and church sectors, or to end de facto class segregation, only to undermine it. If you think it was, and that Sinn Féin had rings run around them in negotiations to restore that suspended executive as a consequence of bungling it, tell me how that would work out? Tanks on the lawn at Inst?
Have any progressive socialists had any impact on education policy north in the last generation? And discrimination in housing/gerrymandering? Just see north Belfast.
NICRA won equal votes and civil rights legislation just in time for them to be meaningless, 'reversed' if you like. Meaningful fair employment and civil rights reforms didn't come out of the goodness of unionist or British hearts, it was only formally enforced by being imposed in a bid to take the power out of the barrel of a gun. What was the point of the [Fair Employment (Northern Ireland) Act 1989 and the Good Friday Agreement? Sure hadn't there been a generation of civil and political rights? Maybe there was a great day early in 1970 when civil and political rights were in place, just before they were all taken away again. Can we date it?
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O we are touchy when the truth comes out.
When I Die Dublin Will Be Written In My Heart
Ross?
If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.
[I]Mr Adams and others are regulars at the Affinia and Sheraton hotels in Manhattan. Sinn Fein's finance director, Des Mackin, is recorded as staying at the chic Surrey hotel on East 76th Street, which boasts that it is New York's "only Relais and Chateau hotel" with "some of the most luxurious suites in Manhattan". Prices for rooms at the Surrey are from $686 to $1,424 (€526 to €1,090).
The returns to the US Department of Justice show that Sinn Fein raised $2.7m (€2.07m) between 2007 and 2010, but the party seems to have spent substantially on first-class travel and accommodation and fine dining.
Mr Adams' favourite restaurant still appears to be Bobby Van's on 50th Street in Manhattan, where he and party colleagues can enjoy the $48.50 (€37) steaks.
During a visit to coincide with the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks on New York, the Sinn Fein delegation enjoyed contemporary American cuisine at the Harbour Lights restaurant, which describes itself as one of the "top 10 romantic restaurants in New York" and "as elegant as South Street Seaport gets".
Sinn Fein's claims to be a party of the working class, as opposed to the corporate class, are difficult to reconcile with the list of donors in the Department of Justice documents. In 2010, they list no less than 35 corporate donors alongside 34 individuals.
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A little extract to show how socialist Scum Fein really are............ Nothing is too good for the working class,, well, nearly nothing
When I Die Dublin Will Be Written In My Heart
and where does this "information" come from?
Here's actula true stuff about it:
Irish media claims that Sinn Fein live it up in the US are far off the mark | People and Politics | IrishCentral
It was feasible because he had the power to do it, and no-one coutd stop him. At that point, the ministers were on most issues effectively a law unto themselves, including this one. There would have been strong support for this from other parties, namely the SDLP, the Alliance and the PUP, as well as from the teaching unions and other civil society groups. Merely abolishing the 11 Plus has not undermined de facto class segregation, but has instead reinforced it due to the fact that it now costs money to take the privatised 11 Plus tests (there are two as you probably know but others mightn't). As for the question about progressive socialists. None have been in power in an NI government with the power to reform the system, but there is the involvement of socialists in the integrated education sector.
I think it's wrong to say that meaningful fair employment and civil rights reforms didn't come until the late 1980s. The Housing Executive, equal right to vote, fair employment legislation etc were and are far from meaningless. Sure discrimination continued by certain employers and individuals, but they were could be and were often brought before the courts. I would in fact argue that there is scope for further improvement in the area of workplace equality legislation but that doesn't render what has gone before meaningless.
The GFA was overwhelmingly a political agreement, and not an agreement about civil rights. The legal protections were in place already, and to the best of my knowledge no new ones were enacted as a result of the GFA. There was a plan for a bill of rights, but that's something else that has been messed up, while all the major political parties collaborated to kill the civic forum as they didn't want a rival centre of power. Consequently, the GFA has been nowhere near as transformative as it might have been. And both unionism and nationalism are at fault for that.
Is that Neofascist, Islamofascist or Anglofascist? I never had them down as Fascists
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