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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesiscorporation View Post
    Who have you spoke to, piece of sh*t?
    LOL Piece of sh*t? Learn that in language class from the kids with the tales from Narnia about the IMF scarring their backs and murdering them in their beds? Did an IMF zombie eat your brainz?

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    i bet the IMF had to bit their lips the whole way to stop themselves from laughing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad View Post
    Reading SF's press release on the meeting with the Troika, it would appear that the officials listened politely to what SF had to say and that was all, SF are now trying to spin what was a standard and guarded non response from the Troika representatives as somehow and endorsement of SF policies, which it certainly was not.
    Sorry, but isn't the central premise that the IMF, or trioka agree that they are unconcerned about how you find the savings to cut the budget deficit as long as the targets are met. There's no spin to that. Again, I state that SF's position that there are choices to where the savings are made. They would argue that the more comfortable, to put it mildly, should shoulder the burden. Didn't blustering Rabbite make some soundbite about afflicting the comfortable.
    Enda Kenny made some ludicrous comment in the Dail about the disabled cuts being requested by the trioka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manstein View Post
    Actually it was before they realised that the taxpayer was not being protected. When the facts change a sensible person changes their position. An idiot doesnt.
    As regards opposing everything......did Fine Gael and Labour not do the same when in opposition? Particularly Labour?
    Nonsense. The only fact that changed was the party political circumstances. No amount of evasion can change the fact that SF supported the bank guarantee they now shamelessly decry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticketyboo View Post
    Yeah - there you go again with your populist ************************e. Who do you support - for the second time? Keep repeating the big lie about the circumstances pertaining to the initial vote on the guarantee and the subsequent rejection of it. There are plenty of "cutbacks" in the pre-budget submissions but they relate to those who can best afford to pay and not attacks on disabled, unemployed,etc. I suppose you'd call them welfare scroungers. You sound JUST like Joan Burton. "I doubt they actually believe much of what they say"?! Would you ever listen to yourself? Oh, and how's the five point plan working out for you? About as well as the "contract with the people", no doubt.
    The big lie?? Check out the Dail records for the truth and we'll see who's lying. Sinn fein's actual policies would lead to the country plunging further into trouble with even more job losses and cutbacks required. When they do eventually become the cosy minor coalition partner in givernment they'll implement every agreement exactly like they do in the 6 counties. There, they implement British government cutbacks and in the south they'd do exactly the same.

    The Fine Gael manifesto being bol*ocks has nothing to do with me criticising SF. I wouldn't waste a vote on either of you.

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    It has everything to do with it Edwin because every time some shinner points to the madness of the FG/Lab approach, you in defensive mode try to counter attack.

    Even if you were right about the shinners initial support for the bank guarantee, you are wrong now as your logic seems to suggest they have no right to complain or offer a different approach now, but above all you are wrong because what the shinners are actually saying -and this goes to the core of why they met the troika -is that there is full agreement among all parties about bridging the deficit gap- but its how the savings are made is the big difference.

    From that meeting, the shinners were able to establish two very important things which are at the core of this debate. 1. The troika agreed that the SF alternative approach was doable and would work. and 2. They the troika had not insisted and pressurised our government to introduce some of the recent measure we were all led to believe they had.

    But you guys Edwin already knew all of this -and the best you can do to take the heat off our gombeen liar government is to revert to history of what happened in 2008 -pathetic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph View Post
    From that meeting, the shinners were able to establish two very important things which are at the core of this debate. 1. The troika agreed that the SF alternative approach was doable and would work. and 2. They the troika had not insisted and pressurised our government to introduce some of the recent measure we were all led to believe they had.

    But you guys Edwin already knew all of this -and the best you can do to take the heat off our gombeen liar government is to revert to history of what happened in 2008 -pathetic!
    The shinners didn't establish that because it was already well known. And I am not a government supporter. Thinking SF are full of crap does not make one a blueshirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph View Post
    From that meeting, the shinners were able to establish two very important things which are at the core of this debate. 1. The troika agreed that the SF alternative approach was doable and would work.
    Please show a link to where the Troika agreed that the SF alternative approach was doable and would work. SF issuing a press release stating “The representatives of the Troika did not express any objection to that option" doesn't by any stretch of the imagination indicate that the Troika either agreed with SF's approach or believed it would work.

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    What happened to IMF Out? The IMF has robbed the sovereignty of this state, resulting in the Household Tax, which SF has no position on.

    Give it a few years and SF in a coalition in the 26 counties will be implementing cuts on behalf of the IMF. They have great experience in imposing cuts on behalf of an impearlist occupation power, just look to Stormont.

    Plenty of SoundBits for SF, on this but again no content. Where all the SF people at the Anti-Household Tax public meetings? A Tax imposed by the IMF.

    SF building a party of SoundBites & No Content.
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