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Veteran British Leftwinger Tony Benn has asked Sinn Fein to consider taking their seats in Westminster and suggests a way for them to get around the Oath.
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Veteran British Leftwinger Tony Benn has asked Sinn Fein to consider taking their seats in Westminster and suggests a way for them to get around the Oath.
I'm just surprised that the dictionary of shinner doublespeak hasn't found them a way around this years ago.Originally Posted by RBinge
And I see lard-arse gildernew has expressed her shock at being denied the opportunity to speak in a foreign parliament to which she is not elected
must be a slow news day
I don't blame them. It is foreign, regardless of the legal position."So many people in Britain still think of the situation in Northern Ireland as a foreign situation
While a constant critic of SF, I understand why they won't sit at Westminster. I would find it hard to sit at Westminster if I was elected as a Nationalist MP up there, as I would feel complicit in foreign rule.
Did she? Where?And I see lard-arse gildernew has expressed her shock at being denied the opportunity to speak in a foreign parliament to which she is not elected
It may be jurisdictionally-foreign but it is part of the Irish homeland which includes the whole island and as such we should not talk in terms of being "foreign".being denied the opportunity to speak in a foreign parliament to which she is not elected
but the fact that it is "jurisdictionally foreign" is the whole bloody point!
Gildernew is a member of the british parliament.
She wants the right to speak in the irish parliament.
Both are "foreign" to each other- in every sense of the word
Thanks to some referendum a while back people in the occupied 6 counties can get themselves an Irish passport which in turn makes them Irish so why shouldnt they have a say in Leinster House? They were elected on this island! You can be damn sure if the SDLP had a majority and Fianna Fail were to merge or strike some alliance deal we'd soon see speaking rights for them in Leinster House!
But NI is not just "any" other typical part of the UK. It has a unique position in Irish law in that anyone born there with a parent also born there has Irish citizenship. This is not something we afford to persons born in Scotland, Wales or England who have no parentage born on the island.but the fact that it is "jurisdictionally foreign" is the whole bloody point!
Gildernew is a member of the british parliament.
She wants the right to speak in the irish parliament.
Both are "foreign" to each other- in every sense of the word
Hence we are connected with NI in a way we are not with the rest of the UK.
That special status justifies consideration of the Shinner's proposals on observer seats in the Dail, and justified also them not wanting to sit at Westminster.
The problem with the citizenship argument is that it was exposed as green window dressing when the loophole was exploited concerning children being born to non Irish parents. The 26 county government unilatrerally altered the GFA to circumvent that. No doubt it would do likewise if such other loopholes were to arise confirming the argument as a facade.
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Thats not exactly news, the article appeared on the 12th May 2005.
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