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    Quote Originally Posted by Telemachus View Post
    Who cares, theres a pub near me that doesnt allow women drink there, one or 2 local TD's can be spotted in there from time to time.
    Thats not legal is it ? Which pub is it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fionnmccool View Post
    Thats not legal is it ? Which pub is it ?
    The one in his imagination.

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    Re: Adams - attending events banning women and gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gadjodilo

    Probably. But whatever word you want to use, I'd be pretty sure that SF don't support what HAMAS do to gays.
    A distinction I'm sure will be of great comfort to gays in Gaza. I'm sure as they're on their way to their lynchings the homosexuals of Gaza will take a lot of comfort from the fact that HAMAS'S supporters in Sinn Fein in Ireland, a country which protects it's citizens from such savagery, greatly disapprove.

    Speaking personally I was a great supporter of the PW Botha administration in South Africa in the 1980's but while I supported them I greatly disapproved of their treatment of the blacks. While I found all this apartheid business rather unpleasant it would be simplistic to suggest my support of old PW, and his regime, bore all the classic hallmarks of moral bankruptcy, don't you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSLeFanu View Post
    A distinction I'm sure will be of great comfort to gays in Gaza.
    What happened to gays in Gaza anyway ? Got links to articles about it ?
    Whatever about problems connected with being born gay, I would have thought considering the bigger picture they'd have higher priorities than sexual freedom considering the myriad of other problems they face just for being born Palestinian which makes simple day to day living a torment in itself. I doubt they'd have a problem with support from anywhere in the world for their plight. It could be equally said that Hamas or whoever by associating with SF are associating with supporters of sodomy and therefore weakening their own anti-sodomite position. You can spin it both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSLeFanu View Post
    Speaking personally I was a great supporter of the PW Botha administration in South Africa in the 1980's but while I supported them I greatly disapproved of their treatment of the blacks. While I found all this apartheid business rather unpleasant it would be simplistic to suggest my support of old PW, and his regime, bore all the classic hallmarks of moral bankruptcy, don't you agree?
    No, I don't agree. Everything about apartheid was morally repugnant. To relegate it to the status of "rather unpleasant" is, well, rather unpleasant.

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    Hitler -an unpleasant man!

    Israeli's carrying Irish Passports - tricky and unpleasant

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    Re: Adams - attending events banning women and gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by fionnmccool
    It could be equally said that Hamas or whoever by associating with SF are associating with supporters of sodomy and therefore weakening their own anti-sodomite position. You can spin it both ways.
    I'm not spinning it at all, that's what you're doing in, it seems to me, an attempt to duck responsibility for Sinn Feins support for the persecution of gays. That those are purely Arab gays makes Sinn Feins stance more repugnant rather than less so. To the indictment of (selective) homophobia you can now add racism too when their stance is to support Irish gays while favouring the persecution of Arab ones.

    Then there's the matter of endemic paedophillia and cover-up. How they support that I'll never know, then again I'm not claiming to understand Sinn Fein, quite the opposite. I'll leave that to the experts here. I presume someone will use Sinn Fein's rather, ahem, relaxed attitude to this matter as a way of spinning their support for an organisation which persecutes GAYS.

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    Re: Adams - attending events banning women and gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackpitts

    No, I don't agree. Everything about apartheid was morally repugnant. To relegate it to the status of "rather unpleasant" is, well, rather unpleasant.
    So what status do you relegate HAMAS'S attitude to homosexuals? Is that merely "unpleasant."

    It seems to me that the SA apartheid regime never seriously questioned the right of blacks to exist. This is what Sinn Fein supported HAMAS are doing in relation to Homosexuals in Gaza.

    Is this somehow better, or easier to tolerate, just because it's Palestinian gays who are under mortal threat? Is there no nobility within them that moves Sinn Fein to care about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl View Post
    Time to ask that question again, Was Gerry in the IRA,
    sure he wouldn't have time with all the secret keeping he had to do with wee brother liam; he didn't even have the luxury of passing it to his superior like sean brady as he was his own and your and my superior. poor gerry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual View Post
    Yes and don't forget that they can be approached for funding-so best to tread carefully.
    Out, damn principles, out damn morals, there's money to be had.

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