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    Quote Originally Posted by setanta View Post
    Your first paragraph is just name-calling, beamish, not analysis. Your second paragraph makes the point that being a 32-county party somehow gives you credibility with the working class. Well, that quality has not worked for SF so far. What makes you think that a weakened and confused party will improve their performance in the Republic simply by having a "Southerner" waving the tricolour?
    You are obviously a partitionist and for the current statis quo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beamish2010 View Post
    You are obviously a partitionist and for the current statis quo.
    Yeah, beamish, I'm a partitionist and my analysis therefore doesn't count *rolls eyes*

    And, with that attitude, you're surprised that Sinn Féin has little electoral support down here and is heading for irrelevance and a marginal Dáil presence at the next election. With friends like this, SF really doesn't neeed political enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Mc Larnon View Post
    Out of the dozen or so Dublin constituencies SF make any kind of impact in only half of these. The resources of Dublin SF should, in the short to medium term, be targetted at these constituencies. All the while of course recruitment should continue to attempt to recruit in weaker areas.

    Much has been made of the resignations from SF in Dublin in recent years. People have spoken of an intellectual cadre who peeled off and formed the basis for Eirigi. What impact are these people having? I could be wrong but most of them seem to slipped completely off the radar, though I am open to people proving me wrong.
    Well i have to say pat, yet again you are completely wrong, and fair from slipping of the radar, from what i can see éirígí have gone from stregth to strength, particularly in dublin, where sf have fared quite badly of late?

    coincidence?


    not likely.

    from a brief look at their web site, éirígí: For A Socialist Republic, you can see they are present in all 6 occupied counties, as well as in donegal and other parts of Ulster, and have a strong presence in munster, and groups in the midland sligo and Wicklow, they are by far most active in dublin, and possibly the most active republican group in dublin, but for a group you said wouldnt last 6 months its not half bad.

    their publicity and website is excellent, possible the best publicity dept of any republican group the never mind the bollox posters were brilliant.

    and just this week alone it seems they are the only group protesting the brit occupation in all 32 counties, as they have called a protest tomorrow against a brit warship in dublin.

    maybe if you got off the internet once in a while you would see republican groups are growing on the ground, while constitutional nationalist groups are fast shrinking to just elected reps and full time paid party members, in a number of areas, and that is not something that a party can surrvive on.

    and seriously i can only think of 4 constituencies in dublin were sinn fein have any chance of doing marginaly well, but thats at a push this time round.

    the areas are dnw, dne, dsw and dsc. but of these, while sf will prob always hold council seats there, i doubt their will be a leinster house seat in dub ater the next election.

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