Sinn Féin Unveil Irish Unity Conference

[Fraxinus_]

Why would anyone want to unify with an entity that has such a mediocre standard of healthcare provision, taking all the worst bits of American healthcare and calling that a role-model? Why would they want to join with a state that has consistently elected thieves and charlatans to power, being essentially an organised criminal conspiracy for large portions of time, and kept electing them long after it was obvious that they were such? Talk of unity is premature until you create something worth unifying with...

I'd say there is a big gap in the delivery of public services between the two states. I know this might be a sweeping over-generalisation but things generally seem to be looked after better in the 6 counties. This morning I saw a fella washing a bus shelter. I never once saw that in Galway or Dublin. As for the politicians.....there are plenty of thieves in Stormont too.

[sowhat]

Let's remember, there are protestants that vote for nationalist parties in the north, indeed some of them are political representatives. The challenge is to persuade more people to vote for the nationalist parties. On the demographics, the estimate is that every year, the population balance in the 6 counties changes 0.5% towards the catholic population.
Within 15 to 20 years, there will be a catholic majority in the 6 counties.

[factual]

Let's remember, there are protestants that vote for nationalist parties in the north, indeed some of them are political representatives. The challenge is to persuade more people to vote for the nationalist parties. On the demographics, the estimate is that every year, the population balance in the 6 counties changes 0.5% towards the catholic population.
Within 15 to 20 years, there will be a catholic majority in the 6 counties.

Just lets make one thing clear. This is not about "waiting for demographics" this is all about making the argument. The only way a UI will come about is if the arguments are good and are put out there.

[factual]

I'd say there is a big gap in the delivery of public services between the two states. I know this might be a sweeping over-generalisation but things generally seem to be looked after better in the 6 counties. This morning I saw a fella washing a bus shelter. I never once saw that in Galway or Dublin. As for the politicians.....there are plenty of thieves in Stormont too.

That's complete rubbish, public services are terrible in the six counties - think abuot the state of the NHS waiting lists or of education for a start - and much worse than here in the south.

[Keith-M]

Making the case for Irish unity in London is pointless.

Maybe it's Irish unity as part of a Federation of the isles, howevr I don't think even SF have come that far yet.

[mutley]

Maybe it's Irish unity as part of a Federation of the isles, howevr I don't think even SF have come that far yet.

I have a funny feeling that you like getting spanked

[Fraxinus_]

That's complete rubbish, public services are terrible in the six counties - think abuot the state of the NHS waiting lists or of education for a start - and much worse than here in the south.

Can't talk about the health service but realy factual, it can't be worse than the 26 counties set up. The college system is far better, more organised and very job orientated. I can't comment on first and second level education though.

[Ifor Bach]

http://www.londonirishunityconference.org/resources/london-irish-unity-conference-flyer.pdf

Sinn Féin have unveiled an important conference on Irish Unity to be held in London. Speakers include unionists as well as a very wide range of highly influential interested parties drawn from public life.

So which Unionists are speaking?

[factual]

So which Unionists are speaking?

David Adams is a Unionist, formerly a politician in the UDP (Ulster Democratic Party).

http://www.londonirishunityconferenc...vid-adams.html

while Lord Bew is close to unionist Lord Trimble, formerly an adviser to him, so can speak from a Unionist Perspective. Indeed if you check out his article on the website you can see he does put a unionist point of view ("Ro******************************************s to uniity").

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...unity-progress

Sinn Féin have even invited the SDLP speaker, Conal McDevitt. Sinn Féin deserve a lot of credit for organising this event.

[sowhat]

Maybe it's Irish unity as part of a Federation of the isles, howevr I don't think even SF have come that far yet.

We are already moving towards a federation..the European Union.