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Thread: Slán abhaile - Time to go Gerry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    And you would accept that the British and the Free State (I presume thats what you meant by "Irish" goverment...though how a regieme run in the interests of forgein capital and controlling only part of Ireland can be rightfully called the Irish goverment or even refered to as such is beyond me...) did almost everything in their power to crush the national liberation movement and in the case of Westminister whip up sectarian hatred between our people.
    I'm sure he did mean the Irish government, the one where we operate a functioning democracy, aren't led by former terrorists and bigots and can deal with domestic issues without the parties threatening to bring the Dáil all the time.

    ..When did the British and Free State goverment suddenly become concerned with a just and last peace here and not try to smash any movement towards geniune self-determination for the vast majiority of people on this Island? When did they become "good guys"?

    Im not being sarcastic...Im geniunely interested to find out when you think this sudden transformation took place?
    Probably after Thatcher left. Major was hamstrung due to relying on unionist votes in parliament, but he, Blair, Brown all seemed to have abandoned the previous desire to ensure the UK stayed intact, instead shifting their stance to letting the North define their own future. I don't want to say they don't care, as the clearly want a peaceful, well managed resolution, but the NI issue won't be in the top 5 concerns for any new government. Once both sides stopped murdering civilians the interest level naturally dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    And you would accept that the British and the Free State (I presume thats what you meant by "Irish" goverment...though how a regieme run in the interests of forgein capital and controlling only part of Ireland can be rightfully called the Irish goverment or even refered to as such is beyond me...) did almost everything in their power to crush the national liberation movement and in the case of Westminister whip up sectarian hatred between our people?

    ..When did the British and Free State goverment suddenly become concerned with a just and last peace here and not trying to smash any movement towards geniune self-determination for the vast majiority of people on this Island? When did they become "good guys" and not the enemny?

    Im not being sarcastic...Im geniunely interested to find out when you think this sudden transformation took place?
    Lets not forget all these actors brought peace to the six counties by the GFA. Think about it. Thousands of lives have been saved as a result.
    RIRA not in my name-Traitors to Ireland MMcGuinness; People are entitled to cultural & social equality MLMcDonald; We have a length to go understanding unionism GAdams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    I'm sure he did mean the Irish government, the one where we operate a functioning democracy, aren't led by former terrorists and bigots and can deal with domestic issues without the parties threatening to bring the Dáil all the time.

    Would that be the same Dáil that celebrated its 90th year anniversary last year?
    It was founded after years of violence - no doubt "terrorists and bigots" to you.
    Arrgghhh, sure it was years ago so it doesn't count to hypocrits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Compromise may be a dirty word but unfortunately it is also what this country - or at least the north-eastern part of it - badly needs. Being up in the hills with a gun might seem honest - but it's not.

    But hey, we might have an election soon. I guess that's the best way to find out then whether the people want him ousted.

    And the best way to find out if Gerry is covering up child abuse is for his brother to go on trial - in a court of law.
    From reading the various articles written on this issue I can't help thinking that Aine Tyrell knows the hope of getting Liam to faces charges in court in any open or honest way are slim and so is taking the only other recourse open to her, the media, or at least that element of the media who have the courage for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual View Post
    Lets not forget all these actors brought peace to the six counties by the GFA. Think about it. Thousands of lives have been saved as a result.
    I stated before the PIRA should have called off their campaign before they did but there is a difference between calling off a guerilla campaign and getting into bed so to speak with the enemnies of the Irish people...Is it beyond you to realise the fact that you can not support a colonial agreement that stores up a lot more bloodshed for the future and also not support futile militarism

    Do you agree with the all Troops Out Movement slogan "Killings in Ireland-Britian is to blame"?

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