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Thread: Slán abhaile - Time to go Gerry.

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    It's ironic that Adams and Robinson are both in the dung because they seem to have put family in front of political propriety.

    Of the two you would have to says Adams sins are the greater. I think he needs to go. Sinn Fein has been steadily leaking moral authority in the nationalist community in the north for the past decade. McGuinness still has a great deal of respect and the party are fortunate in that they have him there as a stabilising influence. However, if the party wants to continue to progress electorally it needs to take swift, dispassionate and conclusive action on this matter. It has much more to gain from a defenestration than clinging to Gerry Adams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    And the best way to find out if Gerry is covering up child abuse is for his brother to go on trial - in a court of law.
    ...assuming that the IRA doesn't do all in their power to intimidate witnesses like in certain other cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    ...assuming that the IRA doesn't do all in their power to intimidate witnesses like in certain other cases.
    What witnesses??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    What witnesses??
    The victims in the cases concerning Gerry's brother are the witnesses in this case.
    "Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse." - Pierre-Simon de Laplace to Napoleon Bonaparte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    The victims in the cases concerning Gerry's brother are the witnesses in this case.
    Do you think that victims could be intimidated into silence?? Do you seriously think that any group associated with Adams would engage in such activity leaving itself open to a victim reporting any such intimidation to the police and the press? Adams in many things, but he ain't stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    Do you think that victims could be intimidated into silence?? Do you seriously think that any group associated with Adams would engage in such activity leaving itself open to a victim reporting any such intimidation to the police and the press? Adams in many things, but he ain't stupid.
    Such intimidation by the so-called republican movement has happened in the past but it is a little less likely to in this case but I should be surprised if they did.
    "Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse." - Pierre-Simon de Laplace to Napoleon Bonaparte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    Do you think that victims could be intimidated into silence?? Do you seriously think that any group associated with Adams would engage in such activity leaving itself open to a victim reporting any such intimidation to the police and the press? Adams in many things, but he ain't stupid.
    Adams has the British state on his side...Do you think the police and press in any of the 32 counties really care about things like justice?

    Didnt see either too concerned about the Provo use of torture to attempt to crush dissent or did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    Such intimidation by the so-called republican movement has happened in the past but it is a little less likely to in this case but I should be surprised if they did.
    They and Adams would be mad to engage in such activity in this very sensitive area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Who would you say are the other key actors?
    MMcG has stated that Gerry Adams is probably the biggest actor in the peace process. However other actors include the British and Irish governments.
    RIRA not in my name-Traitors to Ireland MMcGuinness; People are entitled to cultural & social equality MLMcDonald; We have a length to go understanding unionism GAdams

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual View Post
    MMcG has stated that Gerry Adams is probably the biggest actor in the peace process. However other actors include the British and Irish governments.
    And you would accept that the British and the Free State (I presume thats what you meant by "Irish" goverment...though how a regieme run in the interests of forgein capital and controlling only part of Ireland can be rightfully called the Irish goverment or even refered to as such is beyond me...) did almost everything in their power to crush the national liberation movement and in the case of Westminister whip up sectarian hatred between our people?

    ..When did the British and Free State goverment suddenly become concerned with a just and last peace here and not trying to smash any movement towards geniune self-determination for the vast majiority of people on this Island? When did they become "good guys" and not the enemny?

    Im not being sarcastic...Im geniunely interested to find out when you think this sudden transformation took place?
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