Killian Forde confirms to Politics.ie that he has resigned from Sinn Fein

[cricket]

It was good to see Real Labour calling the shots at Justins funeral.

Interesting choice of words there !

[alan1122]

None. Nada. Zero! Local cumann furious! He is being seen as an egotistical carpetbagger.

Fair play to all those true republicans in The Donaghmede ward who have stood by their electorate, and the best of luck to them all.



For killian forde to take this SF seat as an offering to the Altar of Gilmore el al is nauseating.
he will now contribute to putting Fine Gael into Gov.

[Tiernanator]

I doubt much of the motivation of Killain Forde. However people are entitled to do whatever they feel is right for themselves as well as their political career. I have no doubt Killian's contempt for many in Labour has not won him many friends in the party. However if a SF person has to go anywhere I would prefer it to be a party of the left including Labour than a right wing party. I was pleased to see that Killian totally ruled out FG. So that proves he has some class analysis. People in my party shouldn't carp on about representatives or members leaving rather instead we should redouble our efforts to win these people back or to engage new people.

The sad thing is that smaller parties such as ours dont as yet have the capacity to maintain and develop the political careers of young fliers. Many would be glad we dont but to be truthful I feel this is myopic. People in the smaller parties have as much right as any of the dynastic parties to have a career in the political arena. I personally dont regret Killian's departure as I do not think he was ever a committed republican. He is a social democrat and definitely a person of the centre left but his republicanism has never been deep rooted or galvanised. I wish him well and hope that he works for the working people of Dublin in whatever party he chooses.

[jackryan]

All parties have the *************************ing about head office but there seems to be one hell of a *************************fest in SF about head office, even from those who are still in the party! this is an issue that the party needs to look at not in whitewash way but in a real way! might be a difficult one 2 do and needs a critical investigation Ms. Ferris could head it up seems to be able to be critical!

[scalea]

Does Killian realise that the poorer sectors of our community will still have to pay rates after his little stunt in City Hall, regardless of what party he joins, the damage is done ! !

Well done Killian and Labour your welcome to him ! i`m not a shinner by the way, but i do vote left !

[KingKane]

Does Killian realise that the poorer sectors of our community will still have to pay rates after his little stunt in City Hall, regardless of what party he joins, the damage is done ! !

Well done Killian and Labour your welcome to him ! i`m not a shinner by the way, but i do vote left !

Err...we don't have rates on personal housing in this jurisdiction.

[loner]

Thus my comments on the broad church that was SF in Dublin. What held all of these people under one roof, was it the belief and adherence to armed struggle?

Some people on this thread have argued that SF have moved too far away from its traditional position and support base. According to this view the party has been used by careerists and Johnny come latelys in order to advance personal positions.
Yet others have argued that SF need to adopt a much more realistic (in their terms) approach to policies and prospective candidates. This argument is that SF have to go through a fundamental change in order to attract talented new blood.

You are hardly suggesting that Adams ,Mc Guinness, Pat Doherty,Gerry Kelly etc are johny come latelys

[loner]

Statement by Fianna Fáil Councillor Jim O’Callaghan:




http://www.jimocallaghan.com/update/...lationship.doc

Amusing from a member of FF---wonder what he has to tell us about Ray Burke ,Liam Lawlor Charlie Haughey Albert Reynolds ,Pee Flynn-----bet he could sit down beside them in Govt. without batting an eyelid

[Gordon Freeman]

They won't go anywhere in the South until they have a Southern-based leadership that has a stake in the success of the country. This can take two forms: A joint North-South leadership in two persons, or a Southern All-Ireland leader in one. Gerry Adams poor grasp of Southern politics was laid bare in the infamous debate with McDowell in 2007. It epitomised a leadership that is tired, old and staid, and out of touch with the concerns of the Southern electorate. Only so many Southerners will vote for you based on the Peace Process (which Adams insisted on bringing up in the aforementioned debate). Southerners want SF to tell them: what will you do for us?

They won't go anywhere in the South until they have a Southern-based leadership that has a stake in the success of the country. This can take two forms: A joint North-South leadership in two persons, or a Southern All-Ireland leader in one. Gerry Adams poor grasp of Southern politics was laid bare in the infamous debate with McDowell in 2007. It epitomised a leadership that is tired, old and staid, and out of touch with the concerns of the Southern electorate. Only so many Southerners will vote for you based on the Peace Process (which Adams insisted on bringing up in the aforementioned debate). Southerners want SF to tell them: what will you do for us?

The position of Vice President is usually considered the Southern leader. Mary Lou McDonald is the current V.P., but Pat Doherty was the long time leader (from Donegal). Simply a new figure needs to be found that inspires loyalty and support.

I feel great sympathy for the members of the cumann. They have slogged for many months on the doors not for Killian but for the party.They fundraised, leafletted, canvassed to ensure that SInn Féin maintained that seat, not that Killian Forde would hold the seat. It belongs collecitvely to them and to the wider party in Dublin and nationally.

It beggars belief that this is now the third person who signed a pledge to hand back the seat if they resigned since June. I think it shows the character of a person.

Yeah, just like Gerry Murray and Billy Leonard, eh??

I wonder did exactly nil people leave the cumann to follow Forde? Is that true?

I told feel sorry for the members of SF in Killian's area who worked hard to get this man elected, he states he had reservations since 06 yet he still signed a pledge and then reneges on the pledge. It sure shows that he is lacking in credibility.

Another new sign-up. Looks like the internet warriors of No 44 are working overtime signing on with multiple accounts.

It was the Provos who split the movement in 1969.

No, it was the Stickies that split the movement through the expulsion of most of the party e.g. the Kerry North Comhairle Ceantar etc.

The thing is that everyone I have talked to in the Labour Party hates the shinners for reasons very different to say 32 csmers.

One leading Labour Party figure in Dublin said he would never work with PSF because they have to much blood on their hands.

The whole going to Labour thing is weird.

+1

Somebody should tell O Broin & MacDonald that Labour doesn't care for them very much. This 'broad coalition of progressive forces' is insane and illogical.

Yeah supporting British state violence against the Irish working class and telling people to tout....By the way you do realise that "Group B" were very much in existence at the time of the merger?

What's "Group B"??

[SevenStars]

What's "Group B"??

The stickies code name for the Official Irish Republican Army once they quietly slipped out of the lime light....