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    Martin "Doco" Doherty shotd ead by loyalists defending Dubliners ----------- A Tragic and a terrible blow.
    Killian Forde prostituting himself and A SFcouncil seat to other political parties....................Well, nuff said.

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    Statement by Cllr Killian Forde

    Yesterday afternoon, after nine years of membership, I resigned from Sinn Féin.

    As people within the organisation will know I had become increasingly concerned with the direction of the party over the past three years. This concern was magnified after the 2007 elections but I believed that organisational changes promised to create an organisation fit for 21st century Ireland would evolve. These changes were re-promised after the election debacle of 2009 and yet those changes still had to materialise.

    Sinn Féin had become staid and unresponsive and lost direction in the south over the past few years in both policy and organisational terms. The leadership of the party appeared to not recognise or were unwilling to accept that changes are long overdue. These changes were essential to transform the party into one that values discussions, accommodates dissent and promotes merit over loyalty and obedience. It is only logical that if you disagree with the direction of the party and are unable to change it there is no option but to leave.

    In relation to my recent vote on Dublin City Council I will explain; as chairperson of Dublin City Council’s finance committee and the Chair of the Budget Working Group I had a specific responsibility to try and secure as fair a budget as possible. A budget that had to be balanced despite tens of millions in cuts in central government funding, a collapse in income from development levies and a massive reduction in our own revenues from services such as car parking, leisure and rates.

    Working with other left wing parties and individuals we ensured that the budget presented to the Councillors on December 21st protected jobs, front line services, secured leisure facilities and minimised service charge increases.

    The one item that all political parties were unhappy with was the partial removal of the bin waiver for those on low incomes. However this is not the function, responsibility or within the power of the Councillors to change. The power to set the fees and any waiver is the sole responsibility of the City Manager. This power was removed from Councillors and handed to the City Manager by a Fianna Fail minister.

    I felt that voting against the budget, particularly given the positions I held in the Council, would have been totally futile and a meaningless gesture. Surely Irish politics has had enough of this.

    For this reason I proposed and voted for the budget despite the instructions of my party.

    The country needs radical change to make it fit for purpose for a new era. Many of our institutions of governance are creaking, discredited, some are corrupt, and they need to be radically overhauled.

    If we do not shape success from the opportunity this crisis presents, we will be left high and dry. Decisions taken over the next few years by governments will dictate whether Ireland can finally become a modern, democratic European nation or the Haiti of Europe.

    I want to be part of an organisation that can introduce the necessary legislative changes and constitutional reforms that will enable my generation to live on an island they can be proud of. Sinn Féin was not that organisation.

    I look forward to continue working with all of my colleagues on Dublin City Council promoting a fair and vibrant city and providing a comprehensive constituency service for the people of the Donaghmede ward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1122 View Post
    Martin "Doco" Doherty shotd ead by loyalists defending Dubliners ----------- A Tragic and a terrible blow.
    Killian Forde prostituting himself and A SFcouncil seat to other political parties....................Well, nuff said.
    Good point but if Killian Forde was in the wrong party why did SF allow him to stay on and fight elections for them. The leadership in the north had this vision for the south where they would get people like Forde to stand for election for them and get rid of the ordinary working class people from the party. You reap what you sow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topcat4 View Post
    Good point but if Killian Forde was in the wrong party why did SF allow him to stay on and fight elections for them. The leadership in the north had this vision for the south where they would get people like Forde to stand for election for them and get rid of the ordinary working class people from the party. You reap what you sow.
    Well said topcat, can't disagree with you there, a lot of those with what was described as having a "whiff of cordite were undoubtedly sidelined by SF in thr late90.s and early "noughties".You "reap what you sow" is a useless "told you so statement"
    But thats done and dusted, most genuine republicans will get back to to real work on the ground and continue while Mr.Forde is subsumed into the establisment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1122 View Post
    Well said topcat, can't disagree with you there, a lot of those with what was described as having a "whiff of cordite were undoubtedly sidelined by SF in thr late90.s and early "noughties".You "reap what you sow" is a useless "told you so statement"
    But thats done and dusted, most genuine republicans will get back to to real work on the ground and continue while Mr.Forde is subsumed into the establisment.
    I think we more or less agree, but I think the leadership of Sinn Féin have their collective tongues hanging out to get into the "establishment" and as they would never be accepted themselves, they tried to use people like Forde to get them there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1122 View Post
    Well said topcat, can't disagree with you there, a lot of those with what was described as having a "whiff of cordite were undoubtedly sidelined by SF in thr late90.s and early "noughties".You "reap what you sow" is a useless "told you so statement"
    But thats done and dusted, most genuine republicans will get back to to real work on the ground and continue while Mr.Forde is subsumed into the establisment.
    Are there many 'genuine republicans' left in Sinn Féin and what is the 'real work on the ground' they are involved in and finally, why did S.F. not know Forde was not doing 'real work' and kick him out long ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual View Post
    Arrant nonsense. All Sinn Féin reps take only the AIW. Sinn Féin reps are not careerist, Sinn Féin is an activist campaigning party that puts policies before careerism of individuals. It is not a platform for politicians to further careerist self advancement; Killian Forde clearly has found this a frustration. Further, he has been out of step with the progressive left wing politics of Sinn Féin and thus it makes sense for him to go to another political party. The decent course of action will be for him to hand over his seat to Sinn Féin.
    Not only are they careerist but they are into building family dynasties now too. Which one was asked recently, Paddy Doc, I think, what the average industrial wage was and he didn't know. How many people do you know who do not know how much they earn? As for the AIW, is that the northern or southern standard and is it before or after tax and how would the expenses they draw compare with what the ordinary worker gets? All I know is that the Shinners I know are , in many many case, wealthy people well beyond any industrial average and in many case are landlords calling themselves 'socialists.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cochrane View Post
    Hearing a few people this evening suggesting that Sinn Fein Dublin City Councillor Killian Forde has resigned from the party, taking his council seat with him.

    Cllr Forde is a representative in the Donaghmede ward of Dublin City Council.
    A rumour had been circulating for some months that his resignation was on the cards. Perhaps back as far as August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cochrane View Post
    Statement by Cllr Killian Forde
    Good statement. It's clear that T.Ferris's call for a re-organistion of the party on this side of the border has not been taken on board as the party continues to focus on Northern Ireland. I've said it before and I'll say it again; a party cannot organise properly in two juristictions and that message should not be lost on FF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdaly View Post
    Are there many 'genuine republicans' left in Sinn Féin and what is the 'real work on the ground' they are involved in and finally, why did S.F. not know Forde was not doing 'real work' and kick him out long ago?
    Well I would have to say yes there are , and as you don't konw either way you'll havt to take my word for it.

    Lets see, supporting the workers in ,Thomas Cook, CoCa Cola, The Dockers Recently. Highlighting homelessness and supporting and organising marches and protests against the recent cutbacks. But you and I know you'll just ignore this in your SF bashing posts.
    Not sure about your last question, maybe they took him at his word, amd respected that word, Like when backed SF calls for other Ex. SF cllrs to hand back their seats.Or signed a pledge to fight under a SF banner despite having serious personel doubts for the previous 2 1/2 years, (as he said himself,and we only have his word for that)

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