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    Sinn Fein--the high tax party

    According to SF's MaryLou McDonald on NewsTalk this morning, Sinn Fein supports high taxes, be it the punitive PAYE rates we pay (40% of people are on the 41% rate) or the highway robbery that is represented by stamp duty.

    I'd like to see McDonald on my doorstep. Before telling her to go to hell I'd ask her why she supports the government putting a knife to the throat of ordinary Irish home buyers and making them pay tens of thousands of euros for the privilege of buying a three-bedrooom box. This is a government which has an annual surplus of billions of euros. They're stealing our money!

    Maybe MaryLou wants those high taxes in order to fund extra teachers, translators, hospital places etc. for foreign immigrants?

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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

    Quote Originally Posted by paypal
    According to SF's MaryLou McDonald on NewsTalk this morning, Sinn Fein supports high taxes, be it the punitive PAYE rates we pay (40% of people are on the 41% rate) or the highway robbery that is represented by stamp duty.

    I'd like to see McDonald on my doorstep. Before telling her to go to hell I'd ask her why she supports the government putting a knife to the throat of ordinary Irish home buyers and making them pay tens of thousands of euros for the privilege of buying a three-bedrooom box. This is a government which has an annual surplus of billions of euros. They're stealing our money!

    Maybe MaryLou wants those high taxes in order to fund extra teachers, translators, hospital places etc. for foreign immigrants?
    Paypal you appear to have confused two "issues" here:

    -What SinnFein would do if they got in to power?

    -What Fianna Fail and PDs have done/not done with the €Billions available to them?

    You are probably correct however in saying that the money would be used more efficiently and shrewdly by Sinn Fein or any other minor party thatn by the current wasters (or Fine Gael) and be used for, as you say:

    extra teachers and hospital places

    and probably a more efficient transport system

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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

    Quote Originally Posted by paypal
    According to SF's MaryLou McDonald on NewsTalk this morning, Sinn Fein supports high taxes, be it the punitive PAYE rates we pay (40% of people are on the 41% rate) or the highway robbery that is represented by stamp duty.

    I'd like to see McDonald on my doorstep. Before telling her to go to hell I'd ask her why she supports the government putting a knife to the throat of ordinary Irish home buyers and making them pay tens of thousands of euros for the privilege of buying a three-bedrooom box. This is a government which has an annual surplus of billions of euros. They're stealing our money!

    Maybe MaryLou wants those high taxes in order to fund extra teachers, translators, hospital places etc. for foreign immigrants?
    Sinn Féin believes that the money raised through taxes should be better spent on things such as Hospitals, schools, housing etc. These are things that benefit all the people, not just a select few.

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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

    Quote Originally Posted by paypal
    According to SF's MaryLou McDonald on NewsTalk this morning, Sinn Fein supports high taxes, be it the punitive PAYE rates we pay (40% of people are on the 41% rate) or the highway robbery that is represented by stamp duty.

    I'd like to see McDonald on my doorstep. Before telling her to go to hell I'd ask her why she supports the government putting a knife to the throat of ordinary Irish home buyers and making them pay tens of thousands of euros for the privilege of buying a three-bedrooom box. This is a government which has an annual surplus of billions of euros. They're stealing our money!

    Maybe MaryLou wants those high taxes in order to fund extra teachers, translators, hospital places etc. for foreign immigrants?
    Sinn Féin believes in excellent public services. Better education - more teachers. Better health - more money on hospitals doctors and nurses.

    Sinn Féin do not believe in cuttting tax to help the rich but in investing in better public services - education and health - that will benefit all in society including the poor and deprived.
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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

    Quote Originally Posted by paypal
    Before telling her to go to hell I'd ask her why she supports the government putting a knife to the throat of ordinary Irish home buyers and making them pay tens of thousands of euros for the privilege of buying a three-bedrooom box. This is a government which has an annual surplus of billions of euros. They're stealing our money!
    Of course, you could say that about any tax...

    Anyway, do you really think that a reduction of stamp duty would lead to lower property prices?

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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

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    Quote Originally Posted by paypal
    According to SF's MaryLou McDonald on NewsTalk this morning, Sinn Fein supports high taxes, be it the punitive PAYE rates we pay (40% of people are on the 41% rate) or the highway robbery that is represented by stamp duty.

    I'd like to see McDonald on my doorstep. Before telling her to go to hell I'd ask her why she supports the government putting a knife to the throat of ordinary Irish home buyers and making them pay tens of thousands of euros for the privilege of buying a three-bedrooom box. This is a government which has an annual surplus of billions of euros. They're stealing our money!

    Maybe MaryLou wants those high taxes in order to fund extra teachers, translators, hospital places etc. for foreign immigrants?
    Sinn Féin believes in excellent public services. Better education - more teachers. Better health - more money on hospitals doctors and nurses.

    Sinn Féin do not believe in cuttting tax to help the rich but in investing in better public services - education and health - that will benefit all in society including the poor and deprived.
    And one for everybody in the audience.

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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

    Quote Originally Posted by factual

    Sinn Féin believes in excellent public services. Better education - more teachers. Better health - more money on hospitals doctors and nurses.

    Sinn Féin do not believe in cuttting tax to help the rich but in investing in better public services - education and health - that will benefit all in society including the poor and deprived.

    I have two problems with what you are saying Factual. First of all, things lik better education and healthcare or not things that anyone would claim to be against.
    Secondly and most fundamentally, who are you to speak for SF? I, like most others among both the Shinners and ex shinners fraternity, doubt that you are really a member of SF. My bet is that you are either a Sindo hack or you are a sad, sexually frustrated individual with too much time on his hands, who needs to get laid even more than I do. When I was still a shinner, I didn't always agree with every SF poster on here, but one thing nearly all of us agreed with is that your professions to speak for SF were cringe-making.
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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

    Quote Originally Posted by DOD
    Quote Originally Posted by factual

    Sinn Féin believes in excellent public services. Better education - more teachers. Better health - more money on hospitals doctors and nurses.

    Sinn Féin do not believe in cuttting tax to help the rich but in investing in better public services - education and health - that will benefit all in society including the poor and deprived.

    I have two problems with what you are saying Factual. First of all, things lik better education and healthcare or not things that anyone would claim to be against.
    Secondly and most fundamentally, who are you to speak for SF? I, like most others among both the Shinners and ex shinners fraternity, doubt that you are really a member of SF. My bet is that you are either a Sindo hack or you are a sad, sexually frustrated individual with too much time on his hands, who needs to get laid even more than I do. When I was still a shinner, I didn't always agree with every SF poster on here, but one thing nearly all of us agreed with is that your professions to speak for SF were cringe-making.
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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

    Quote Originally Posted by DOD
    Quote Originally Posted by factual

    Sinn Féin believes in excellent public services. Better education - more teachers. Better health - more money on hospitals doctors and nurses.

    Sinn Féin do not believe in cuttting tax to help the rich but in investing in better public services - education and health - that will benefit all in society including the poor and deprived.

    I have two problems with what you are saying Factual. First of all, things lik better education and healthcare or not things that anyone would claim to be against.
    Secondly and most fundamentally, who are you to speak for SF? I, like most others among both the Shinners and ex shinners fraternity, doubt that you are really a member of SF. My bet is that you are either a Sindo hack or you are a sad, sexually frustrated individual with too much time on his hands, who needs to get laid even more than I do. When I was still a shinner, I didn't always agree with every SF poster on here, but one thing nearly all of us agreed with is that your professions to speak for SF were cringe-making.
    Seems to me Factual has been 'On Message' a bit too much for some peoples' liking! :P

    Can anyone recall a time when Factual has stated something against SF party policy?

    I think he/she has made the mistake of actually believing everything he/she has heard emanating from Party HQ - much to the embarrassment of some!

    As for advocating Higher Taxes that is political suicide – if SF do that they will suffer at the Polls no doubt about it.
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    Re: Siin Fein--the high tax party

    Quote Originally Posted by factual

    Sinn Féin believes in excellent public services. Better education - more teachers. Better health - more money on hospitals doctors and nurses.

    Sinn Féin do not believe in cuttting tax to help the rich but in investing in better public services - education and health - that will benefit all in society including the poor and deprived.

    But supposing your plan to increase taxes on the rich, and increase Corporation Tax, resulted in a lower overall tax take, due to the effects that such tax increases had on investment decisions, on disposable income, on spending, and on employment? Then you'd have less tax revenue available, along with higher social welfare costs (caused by higher unemployment).

    So how would you improve public services then?
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